Yakama Nation Sheep Tags

[jackelope]

Oh Mah.... Are you Native American?

[Time Immemorial 1855]

keep trying to spin that bull,The Constitution specifically said All men were created equal so wrong again plat.The Constitution is and always has been more than a piece of paper,It was the way of America to be.It meant that we were to have morals,character and most of all compassion for fellow man.That included the natives and all others from all other lands.Soldiers broke laws when they invaded tribal communities some were even hung for doing so.So i will repeat what i said again,Without the Constitution and what it stood for the natives would have been completely wiped out.It is what kept the soldiers from being able to eradicate the tribes.The Constitution did not protect the tribal land any more than non tribal from gov. remember R.R co. were able to kill,steel do whatever it took to get the land they wanted no matter the color of the land owner. So plat wrong again.You're not very good with history for someone trying to teach it to others.

Plat is giving you facts, lessons in history are not always taught the right way

[Oh Mah]

Oh Mah.... Are you Native American?

@jackelope: YEP (NOT YAKAMA AND ONLY ABOUT 1/4 Cherokee).Plat nowhere in any post did i say the Constitution was adapted for Natives.It is and always has been(even slaves) used to fight for the rights of all.Even though at times(even now)There were and are those that don't follow the laws in it.

Yakama: Trail of tears?

Yakama: Wounded knee?

[Time Immemorial 1855]

Oh Mah.... Are you Native American?

@jackelope: YEP (NOT YAKAMA AND ONLY ABOUT 1/4 Cherokee).Plat nowhere in any post did i say the Constitution was adapted for Natives.It is and always has been(even slaves) used to fight for the rights of all.Even though at times(even now)There were and are those that don't follow the laws in it.

Yakama: Trail of tears?

Yakama: Wounded knee?

There was Yakama's at Wounded Knee

[Oh Mah]

Ok  ,Sources?

[Dan-o]

keep trying to spin that bull,The Constitution specifically said All men were created equal so wrong again plat.The Constitution is and always has been more than a piece of paper,It was the way of America to be.It meant that we were to have morals,character and most of all compassion for fellow man.That included the natives and all others from all other lands.Soldiers broke laws when they invaded tribal communities some were even hung for doing so.So i will repeat what i said again,Without the Constitution and what it stood for the natives would have been completely wiped out.It is what kept the soldiers from being able to eradicate the tribes.The Constitution did not protect the tribal land any more than non tribal from gov. remember R.R co. were able to kill,steel do whatever it took to get the land they wanted no matter the color of the land owner. So plat wrong again.You're not very good with history for someone trying to teach it to others.

Plat is giving you facts, lessons in history are not always taught the right way

 

PLat has proven his knowledge on this more than a few times.

I, for one, really appreciate Plat's contributions of both fact and perspective.     

Time Immemorial, thanks for chiming in and trying to be a positive influence.   

[Oh Mah]

I also appreciate plats perspective.  Are you saying that i am somehow being negative?I thought i was neutral and stating facts as well.

If you think im wrong about the Constitution Dano,Please explain.

[Dan-o]

I also appreciate plats perspective.  Are you saying that i am somehow being negative?I thought i was neutral and stating facts as well.

If you think im wrong about the Constitution Dano,Please explain.

Well, since you asked:

I simply think that you try to be argumentative.   It seems like you have a deep seated need to try to show people how smart you are........ while not appearing to be all that smart.

I would bet big money that Plat knows a whole lot more about how their treaties work and relate to the US constitution than you do.   

But that is just my opinion...... since you asked.

[Oh Mah]

http://www.flashpointmag.com/amindus.htm

[meatwhack]

I have a few questions I’d like to hear some others thoughts on.

1. Do you think the tribe does a good job at managing wildlife?
2. Do you feel a majority of members respect their rights or abuse them?
3. How many animals per family do you think it takes to meet the sustainment portion of the treaty?

[farmin4u_98948]

Envy, fair, race, you are missing the point farmin. There are a few good points on this thread you didn’t bother to read.  Seriously, you sound like a liberal who doesn’t have anything to say so you throw out the race card, doesn’t work anymore.....

TrouphyHunt. In the world of assumptions.  You are very wrong. Check my zip code. My exposure to Yakama Nation is extensive. Raised on the Rez as were my parents and grandparents. I have leased farm and range land from Yakama Nation that were  transfered down to me from them. Education to the history of how we are where we are takes work. Accusations are the easy way. Chose education and be happy

[farmin4u_98948]

Oh Mah.... Are you Native American?

@jackelope: YEP (NOT YAKAMA AND ONLY ABOUT 1/4 Cherokee).Plat nowhere in any post did i say the Constitution was adapted for Natives.It is and always has been(even slaves) used to fight for the rights of all.Even though at times(even now)There were and are those that don't follow the laws in it.

Yakama: Trail of tears?

Yakama: Wounded knee?

There was Yakama's at Wounded Knee

Yes there was. I’m sorry I don’t remember his name.  I met him at the Satus Mission maybe 10 years ago. He was there with the Pastor Jerry McNew. 

[PlateauNDN]

Like i said, I didnt come on here to teach history and as dan-o said I get the same perception. Theres tons of knowledge and history I dont share that isn't in text books. Knowledge I gathered from my grandparents thru 1st and 2ndnhand experience but Oh Mah knows because he learned in school and that's all 100% factual.

I know Jerry McNew well. I 1st met him when I was a toddler attending McKinley Indian Mission and Tom Blackeagle. I also attended the Satus Indian Mission when it was reopened.

But, I'm not here to teach history because my history isnt text book history per someone's standards and im not going to go back and forth trying to explain.

Meatwhack, I've expressed my opinions on almost every thread regarding these issues when these types of argument threads were started and it gets old repeating.

My family alone, my goal is 2 elk (male/female), 2 deer (male/female) and as of recent 2 free range Treaty Bison from Montana.

We rarely have beef nowadays that's not to say I dont buy it on occasion as it does have flavor but we're eating what I provide. That's also not including salmon.

[Oh Mah]

I'm confused,who is this Jerry McNew,and where does he fit in this conversation?I learned most of what i know from my grandfather not schools,No diff from what you say.

now i'm not arguing period,i showed facts which you ignored.You said what you said about the Constitution what do you say now after my link?Do you disagree with it because it doesn't match what you were told?

[treefarmer]

I haven’t read this whole thread but i think a few of you should get together for a drink and watch “ hostiles” on Netflix