Yakama Nation Sheep Tags

[meatwhack]

That’s what I’m watching tonight that’s funny.

[hunter399]

I'm confused,who is this Jerry McNew,and where does he fit in this conversation?I learned most of what i know from my grandfather not schools,No diff from what you say.

now i'm not arguing period,i showed facts which you ignored.You said what you said about the Constitution what do you say now after my link?Do you disagree with it because it doesn't match what you were told?

I've heard enough oh mah the only thing the constitution did was made Indian affairs a federal matter , and gave money to the department of war to slaughter as many natives as they could .Set aside money for treaty afterwards.
There is a place for history in books and internet links,but then there's the truth which never gets told.Just get over it already .This tread has went way off topic of sheep tags to native American history.Stop your ranting and cry me a river on the world smallest 🎻 already.

[Oh Mah]

obviously you did not read this thread,or don't comprehend.I am not ranting i said from the first few post i made here that it is what it is and the only ones that can do anything are the feds.get your facts straight before you try to attack me with whatever you got going on in your mind. 

[Oh Mah]

So the argument now is the small group of those that abuse the right, take advantage of the right and exploit the right and you choose to take it out on the rest of us that follow the laws, follow the rights and dont cause the pain and anguish that the small user group does to the whole group?

Sounds like the same argument that the left is pushing. Take the right because a small user group is ruining it for the rest.

  Your analogy is weak. Yes we enjoy our 2A rights. However it's not a free for all. There are still laws pertaining to it. I can't just go down to the gas station and buy a fully automatic rifle. Also, if I abuse my god given second ammendment rights they take them away. Do they take away the hunting rights of the few in your tribe who abuse them? Didn't think so. We want you to actually police your own.

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This is almost spot on,Add in the point that all of the Constitution is for all not just a group.Our Constitution made these unalienable rights equal for all citizens.HUGE DIFFERENCE!Without the Constitution these treaties would have never been made so quit trying to use it in an UNAMERICAN WAY.

Says you. The Constitution didnt apply to my people when the Treaties were negotiated and they didnt apply until long after. We weren't considered citizens until the mid-1920's.

You dont know nor understand the issues involving my size of the fence. Our people, not just Yakamas but all Tribes have been 2nd rate citizens living in 3rd world settings and now you just decide what I can or cannot do or say?

Yes, it s a choice. A very hard choice and most aren't able to succeed with the choices they made. Generation after generation grew up knowing the lifestyle of the previous generation while being raised by the family 2 generations back.

You think its UNAMERICAN the way I made a comparison? Why? The Constitution isn't the reason why we as Tribes have Treaties. If you noticed the Treaties said we'd remain Sovereign as separate nations on our reservations, not as Americans, but as tribes. We stay on the sh... hole dirt laden dump of land called Reservations we would be left alone to continue our lives, not as Americans.

We've been considered and allowed to be called American Citizens what 3 generations now and its expected that we drop our culture, traditions and way of life that we have lived by since before the Americans came out here and began their attempt to exterminate and/or assimilate us?

since you skipped around and didnt read this is where the Constitution derailment started.

[PlateauNDN]

  whatever you say Oh Mah.

[PlateauNDN]

Since your point is to prove that the Constitution was put in place for Tribes for our own good then prove it. You keep saying it and yet I haven't seen proof. You keep pushing your opinion and ive yet to see facts other than your opinion so let's see it. I'll push the burden of proof back to you.

[Oh Mah]

http://www.flashpointmag.com/amindus.htm

     I DID!

[shallowforks]

Best of luck to all those this upcoming season.

Yes best of luck to all!

[nwhunter]

So who drew the Swakane sheep tags that this post was originally about and will they go after any ram just to get the meat for subsistence or will they be after the biggest ram in the unit on Sept 1??

[Chiefbigbul]

Just wondering, If you knew a Yakama that drew the Swakane Tag would you help him scout if asked or would you want no part of it?  Just seems like a good opportunity for someone to go at least look at some beautiful animals in there.  Or would you not help a tribal member simply because he's a tribal member?  Just a question.

[Chiefbigbul]

oh and the answer to your constitution question is on my footnotes.  Been there. 

[Romulus1297]

Why would anybody need help scouting for a ram in swakane?

[Chiefbigbul]

IDK, I'm not a RAM Hunter so this is why I am asking.  Pretty sure when people luck out and get a RAM tag they don't exactly know the area there going to hunt.  So they get a guide or a scout.  But it was just a question.  To see where you stand on it. 

[nwhunter]

If it was a state draw tag that was drawn I might consider helping someone regardless of who they were if I was asked.... However a tag like this that there was no input from the wdfw or regard for the welfare of the sheep herd and the effect it will have on the rest of us hopeful sheep hunters that would like to draw a swakane sheep tag someday….no I would not.. Not about it being a Yakama hunter but the process that was used to give out those tags that I don't agree with..

[Oh Mah]

oh and the answer to your constitution question is on my footnotes.  Been there.

Yep.