Yakama Nation Sheep Tags

[Tbar]

Not only would I help, I would use all the tools in my toolbox to find the animal that humbles us. Which usually equates to at the minimum a mature representation of the species.

[PlateauNDN]

If it was a state draw tag that was drawn I might consider helping someone regardless of who they were if I was asked.... However a tag like this that there was no input from the wdfw or regard for the welfare of the sheep herd and the effect it will have on the rest of us hopeful sheep hunters that would like to draw a swakane sheep tag someday….no I would not.. Not about it being a Yakama hunter but the process that was used to give out those tags that I don't agree with..

I'm with this guy.

So at this point in time, is it safe to say you are anti tribal hunting (or sugar coat it and say you don't agree).

@Tbar
Are you willing to assist a Yakama tribal hunter in the Swakane on a sheep hunt?

Here's the original question.

Just wondering, If you knew a Yakama that drew the Swakane Tag would you help him scout if asked or would you want no part of it?  Just seems like a good opportunity for someone to go at least look at some beautiful animals in there.  Or would you not help a tribal member simply because he's a tribal member?  Just a question.

In a heartbeat!

@Chiefbigbul I may provide info, tactics or assistance if I knew who drew the Swakane permits? Not saying in a sheep expert but I do have a ton of experience. 

[Oh Mah]

Sustenance:Why do some feel that this means only meat/fish?It gets brought up in most of these threads.What about selling jerky?How much elk does one family need?WHY ONLY BIG BULLS?

Sustenance can be anything that a person needs to survive in this world and meat, hides, horn art etc. are all bartering tools for other things needed like milk,bread,eggs and most important clothing.So it should not be injected in these topics. 

[baker5150]

Yes i was taught all of these things, we actually lived our life through the treaty, also we were forced to read the treaty articles along with the treaty notes.  the notes tell a different story, i have actually seen the original treaty in WASHINGTON DC. But do I believe the United States meant to include us- definitely not.  Do I belive we had great chiefs and people that helped negotiate the treaty of 1855, yes I do.  There had to be people at the treaty negotaitions that new this and were on our side.

Are the treaty articles and notes available online for me to read? 
Or do you know where I could find them?

[meatwhack]

I’ve got a hypothetical question for a tribal member if they care to answer.
Do you think it would be beneficial or detrimental to the wildlife if WDFW adopted the tribes rules and regulations as it pertains to hunting for all GMU’s on ceded lands?

[meatwhack]

But is it known where the money from sales go?I mean it could be funding 30 peoples needs (sustenance) for the year.Toiletry,clothes,milk,bread who knows?

Just curious what your definition of sustenance is. The way I understand the definition wouldn’t have anything to do with selling or bartering items.

[jackelope]

This thread is about to be locked if you ask me.

[Timberstalker]

It’s just starting to get legs. Don’t go ruining all the fun. Busch Lite and Native American threads are where it’s at.

[sagerat]

Not only would I help, I would use all the tools in my toolbox to find the animal that humbles us. Which usually equates to at the minimum a mature representation of the species.

Tbar, are you Native American?

[sagerat]

I’ve got a hypothetical question for a tribal member if they care to answer.
Do you think it would be beneficial or detrimental to the wildlife if WDFW adopted the tribes rules and regulations as it pertains to hunting for all GMU’s on ceded lands?

Good question

[baker5150]

I’ve got a hypothetical question for a tribal member if they care to answer.
Do you think it would be beneficial or detrimental to the wildlife if WDFW adopted the tribes rules and regulations as it pertains to hunting for all GMU’s on ceded lands?

Good question

 

We’ve been here.  This isn’t progress, this is repetition and therefore pointless and uncivil.

Having a civil and factual conversation is more important than trying to prove a point we all know the answer to.

[Whitenuckles]

Come on guys.... let's not hate. Tribes have their say in this world as do we. The real question is how do we all get on the same page? Hating each other us not going to do any good. We all agree that tribes kill too much, but on the other hand "white man" poaches too.

Let's work together and figure out a better way! If we dont, our kids won't be able to hunt with their kids. Hunting privileges will be locked up in courts. No one wants that!

One day, maybe a far distant day, we will all be the same and have the same rights to our natural resources. Buy it's not coming soon! We should work for a solution now before it's to late 

[meatwhack]

I’ve got a hypothetical question for a tribal member if they care to answer.
Do you think it would be beneficial or detrimental to the wildlife if WDFW adopted the tribes rules and regulations as it pertains to hunting for all GMU’s on ceded lands?

Good question

I’m confused how asking a question like that is uncivil or unfactual. I’m trying to better understand the logic and reasoning behind the management practices other than because it’s our right so we hunt and kill what we want.

 

We’ve been here.  This isn’t progress, this is repetition and therefore pointless and uncivil.

Having a civil and factual conversation is more important than trying to prove a point we all know the answer to.

[Chiefbigbul]

    Meatwhack thats not a hypothetical question!!!  You know what would happen, look what happened to the Buffalo.  That question is almost like oh mah asking me if I believe the United States meant to protect all Native treaty's through the Constitution.  The Constitution was signed in 1789 and the Treaty's were signed all post 1850's 

[sled]

Come on guys.... let's not hate. Tribes have their say in this world as do we. The real question is how do we all get on the same page? Hating each other us not going to do any good. We all agree that tribes kill too much, but on the other hand "white man" poaches too.

Let's work together and figure out a better way! If we dont, our kids won't be able to hunt with their kids. Hunting privileges will be locked up in courts. No one wants that!

One day, maybe a far distant day, we will all be the same and have the same rights to our natural resources. Buy it's not coming soon! We should work for a solution now before it's to late 

you are wrong.  I have lots of hate.  Not against people but regulations.  Only way we will be on the same page is to start following the same regulations for all.  At this point I’m all in with the yakama regs for everyone!