Wood stove for high buck.

[wendigo]

I’m doing the pasayten this year for the second time. Last year an ultralight wood stove would have been sweet with all the snow. Is snow and colder temps pretty typical for that area and time of year or is it a total roll of the dice where I will most likely be packing around a stove in an area too dry to use it safely?



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[bracer40]

Last year’s September weather was very unusual. We’ve had many seasons where burn bans were in effect during September. I’d be suprised if we had another snowy September this year.

[7mmfan]

It's a toss up. Best bet is to review a good weather forecast the day before you leave and make necessary adjustments. Some years will be like last year, some years it will be sunny and 70.

[MtnMuley]

I would absolutely recommend an ultralight Ti stove if I were heading into the Pasayten and was serious about staying a few days.

[ian_padron]

First day of the high hunt last year I was hiking in 75 degree weather with a tank top on, came down mid week and went back up to find 4 inches of snow. You just never know!

I don't think a Ti stove will make or break your pack weight, might as well toss 'er in. However, I am not bringing mine for a 5 day hunt.

[GHETTO GUIDE]

First day of the high hunt last year I was hiking in 75 degree weather with a tank top on, came down mid week and went back up to find 4 inches of snow. You just never know!

I don't think a Ti stove will make or break your pack weight, might as well toss 'er in. However, I am not bringing mine for a 5 day hunt.

Coming from the guy who wouldn't notice a 5lb rock in his pack. .

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[j_h_nimrod]

First day of the high hunt last year I was hiking in 75 degree weather with a tank top on, came down mid week and went back up to find 4 inches of snow. You just never know!

I don't think a Ti stove will make or break your pack weight, might as well toss 'er in. However, I am not bringing mine for a 5 day hunt.

I did the Pasayten a few year ago and had a similar experience.  Going in at 75+ degrees, then over the week we had snow, ice, rain, and more sun. Morning temps were in the 20s a few days and the rain was so hard every stream was raging. I never felt a stove would have been useful, more to carry and more work at camp. Good tents, tarps, clothes, and other gear is enough IMO.

[ian_padron]

First day of the high hunt last year I was hiking in 75 degree weather with a tank top on, came down mid week and went back up to find 4 inches of snow. You just never know!

I don't think a Ti stove will make or break your pack weight, might as well toss 'er in. However, I am not bringing mine for a 5 day hunt.

Coming from the guy who wouldn't notice a 5lb rock in his pack. .

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[ghosthunter]

If I am out for the day in the cold I throw this in the pack.

https://www.bioliteenergy.com/products/campstove-2

Works any elevation.
Burns anything
And will charge your phone.

[ian_padron]

If I am out for the day in the cold I throw this in the pack.

https://www.bioliteenergy.com/products/campstove-2

Works any elevation.
Burns anything
And will charge your phone.

Those things are so stinking cool

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[boneaddict]

Not a cell phone guy, but that’s pretty cool.   

[TRD1911]

Bumping an old thread as it's a related topic. Considering taking my TiGoat titanium stove and tipi with me on a high buck hunt next week. As with all of the high-buck hunts they are in wilderness areas so I figured I'd ask those that have done it before what the legalities are of using a tent stove in a wilderness area. I was under the impression that they were a no-go?

[zwickeyman]

Pretty sure you can use a stove in any wilderness. Some wildernesses will have areas that you cant have open fires in certain basins though

[h2ofowlr]

Pretty sure you can use a stove in any wilderness. Some wildernesses will have areas that you cant have open fires in certain basins though

Many wilderness areas or back country only allow the canister fuel.  For your jet boils or along those lines.  Legally.

[TRD1911]

Researched it a bit and it says that stoves are approved but I wasnt sure if that meant jetboils or hot tents. Thanks

[Tim in Wa.]

I've had game wardens a forest service check out my woodstove and they were fine with it as long as I used a spark arrester

[Bushcraft]

Pretty sure you can use a stove in any wilderness. Some wildernesses will have areas that you cant have open fires in certain basins though

Many wilderness areas or back country only allow the canister fuel.  For your jet boils or along those lines.  Legally.

Hmmm....that's a pretty broad brush stroke. Any restrictions in wilderness areas have more to do with elevation and existing fire danger limitations.

[jackelope]

Ya. Always thought it was elevation more than anything, aside from burn ban.

[JimmyHoffa]

Ya. Always thought it was elevation more than anything, aside from burn ban.

I've been told it is due to the slow growth of the plants at the high elevations.  It takes many years for trees in the alpine to get to a size suitable for burning.  If people started taking limbs and cutting small trees, even a few having fires could cut back the size of the upper level vegetation considerably.

[Bushcraft]

We took a wood stove of my own design this year and used it in my Kifaru MegaTarp.

Serious BTU output is a game changer when you're dealing with constant rain and near freezing low temps.

[R2Rcoulee]

We took a wood stove of my own design this year and used it in my Kifaru MegaTarp.

Serious BTU output is a game changer when you're dealing with constant rain and near freezing low temps.

Do you have any pictures of your set-up.  How heavy is your maga-tarp & wood stove?

[Fl0und3rz]

I'd be interested in your stove design, too.

[Okanagan]

I'd be interested in your stove design, too.

I'm interested as well. 

A miserable N. Cascades high hunt was what moved me to buy a Seek Outside tipi with stove jack.  If backpack stoves were made of gold rather than titanium they would cost less, so I made my own stove.  My first stove was too small and would go from red hot to out in five minute cycles.  That first use of it was in -25 F on a late whitetail hunt and was almost comical in misery.  Five minutes of high heat would warm the upper tipi down to about knee height and build humidity, then as the wood burned out it would freeze upward again, forming hoar frost inside the tipi walls.  The next short heat cycle would melt the frost into rain.  Meanwhile I was frantically stuffing finger to thumb sized sticks into the stove trying to keep an even burn going without choking it out.

[Tim in Wa.]

Go to the kitchen ware section of your local Walmart and have a look at their selection of s.s. (single thickness) pots and pans.Get some s.s. pop rivets and some small abrasive wheels for your Dremel tool.To possibilities are nearly endless

[cvandervort]

Nailed it!
I’ve built a few, but my favorite so far was a pair of steam pans from cash and carry!


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[Tim in Wa.]

this is a source for the s.s. or T I foil for the stove pipe https://www.mcmaster.com/stainless-steel-foil

[Bushcraft]

I'd be interested in your stove design, too.

I'm interested as well. 

A miserable N. Cascades high hunt was what moved me to buy a Seek Outside tipi with stove jack.  If backpack stoves were made of gold rather than titanium they would cost less, so I made my own stove.  My first stove was too small and would go from red hot to out in five minute cycles.  That first use of it was in -25 F on a late whitetail hunt and was almost comical in misery.  Five minutes of high heat would warm the upper tipi down to about knee height and build humidity, then as the wood burned out it would freeze upward again, forming hoar frost inside the tipi walls.  The next short heat cycle would melt the frost into rain.  Meanwhile I was frantically stuffing finger to thumb sized sticks into the stove trying to keep an even burn going without choking it out.

At the risk of sounding selfish, I'm going to have to decline sharing the design right now. I've made a bunch over the years and my current iteration series (different sizes) could be commercialized.  It's one of the lightest, easiest to pack, fastest to set up and take down, fastest to start a fire, hottest/cleanest burning stoves with the best cooking surface I've seen when it comes to backpackable woodstoves.

[Fl0und3rz]

Fair enough.

[GHETTO GUIDE]

I'd be interested in your stove design, too.

I'm interested as well. 

A miserable N. Cascades high hunt was what moved me to buy a Seek Outside tipi with stove jack.  If backpack stoves were made of gold rather than titanium they would cost less, so I made my own stove.  My first stove was too small and would go from red hot to out in five minute cycles.  That first use of it was in -25 F on a late whitetail hunt and was almost comical in misery.  Five minutes of high heat would warm the upper tipi down to about knee height and build humidity, then as the wood burned out it would freeze upward again, forming hoar frost inside the tipi walls.  The next short heat cycle would melt the frost into rain.  Meanwhile I was frantically stuffing finger to thumb sized sticks into the stove trying to keep an even burn going without choking it out.

At the risk of sounding selfish, I'm going to have to decline sharing the design right now. I've made a bunch over the years and my current iteration series (different sizes) could be commercialized.  It's one of the lightest, easiest to pack, fastest to set up and take down, fastest to start a fire, hottest/cleanest burning stoves with the best cooking surface I've seen when it comes to backpackable woodstoves.

So patient that shiz and get it on the market. Sounds like you've out engineered all the other units out there. 

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