INSTATE WOLF ADVOCATES BLAST OUT-OF-STATERS’ COURT MOVES AGAINST WDFW

[jackelope]

http://nwsportsmanmag.com/instate-wolf-advocates-blast-out-of-staters-court-moves-against-wdfw/

[jackelope]

@MitchFriedman  care to chime in?

[Rainier10]

Interesting.  Good to see that CNW is in favor of lethal removal in some cases.

[CAMPMEAT]

Out-of-state groups always get involved with Washington State affairs. Look at voting.........Illegals etc.

[pianoman9701]

I'm surprised and delighted that CNW takes this stand. I can't agree with everything they support regarding the diseased, introduced canids. But this is a solid move in the right direction.

[Special T]

I'm surprised and delighted that CNW takes this stand. I can't agree with everything they support regarding the diseased, introduced canids. But this is a solid move in the right direction.

Don't be deceived by this Faux outrage... its a strategy to gain some kind of credibility while the other hand is making trouble.

[shallowforks]

Don't be deceived by this Faux outrage... its a strategy to gain some kind of credibility while the other hand is making trouble.

how about commending an organization when they do the right thing instead of accusing them of ulterior motives? How do we achieve any of the sportsmans/outdoorsmans agenda if we isolate ourselves and refuse to create relationships with those who don't share our opinion?

[pianoman9701]

I'm surprised and delighted that CNW takes this stand. I can't agree with everything they support regarding the diseased, introduced canids. But this is a solid move in the right direction.

Don't be deceived by this Faux outrage... its a strategy to gain some kind of credibility while the other hand is making trouble.

I don't think they'd make a public statement expressing their opposition to these two groups' actions and risk losing support among their wolf-loving members/supporters. They have nothing to gain.

[Special T]

Don't be deceived by this Faux outrage... its a strategy to gain some kind of credibility while the other hand is making trouble.

how about commending an organization when they do the right thing instead of accusing them of ulterior motives? How do we achieve any of the sportsmans/outdoorsmans agenda if we isolate ourselves and refuse to create relationships with those who don't share our opinion?

Delay is a valid tactic, and used quite successfully by Anti consumptive groups.  All we have to do is look at not too distant history of Montana, Idaho, and Wyoming to see how the system operates.

I understand that sportsmen are stuck. If they move too quick with out enough process the courts will just throw it back and it will take longer.  Go through the process with the Faux hand wringing of trying to appease and seem reasonable, and we get sued anyway. You can only negotiate with folks in good faith, and it is a had pill to swallow that Mitch Freedman is that person.

Here are some excerpts from a Seattle Times article on him. His tactics has changed but his motivation and philosophy has not. His tactics were crude and less effective when he was part of Earth First. He softened his image and tactics to match the more subdued nature of folks here in the PNW.
https://www.seattletimes.com/pacific-nw-magazine/a-once-radical-mitch-friedman-now-collaborates-for-a-wilder-northwest/

"His group, later renamed Conservation Northwest, expanded the concept. From the still-smoking battlefield of the spotted owl, Friedman’s little band sorted through wary displaced generals on all sides, seeking pragmatists willing to deal on the next generation of environmental issues.
Patterns emerged: Friedman could call off the legal dogs keeping loggers out of the woods in exchange for critical habitat protection. "

"Detro, when pressed, admits he fears the wolf more as a political tool than a daily nuisance.
Environmentalists already destroyed the local logging industry under the guise of spotted-owl protection, Detro says. “Now here comes the wolf, the perfect tool for them to get livestock off public lands in the West.”
He sees it as just the latest volley in “an incremental destruction of our way of life” — part of a broader agenda to erode gun and property rights.
Nonsense, Friedman scoffs.
He understands the man’s anger, and regrets some of his own early antics — including those burned into Detro’s memory. But he doesn’t consider his goals then, or now, radical. And he minces no words describing those who would politicize wildlife-habitat issues.
“There’s always folks who will move themselves forward by dividing and scapegoating,” Friedman says. “May they burn in hell.”

[wolfbait]

And then good ol' mitch is right there with WDF&Wolves writing an asinine wolf plan that will destroy the very wildlife that live in the habitat he pretends to be fighting for.

And after the wolf plan is implemented WDFW along with CNW completely ignore the impact of wolves on the ungulates etc.. Why? Because wolves are just a tool the same as the spotted owl was. We have seen how that turned out.



There should be some that burn in hell for the genocide of Washington's wildlife and the untold suffering of livestock etc. by wolves.

[CGDucksandDeer]

Wolfbait, in addition to directly supporting Eastern Washington ranches avoid conflict with wolves, including the gentleman involved in this conflict, CNW has a number of programs benefiting ungulates. To claim that we're at all interested in their demise is nonsense. Here's one: https://www.conservationnw.org/our-work/habitat/okanogan-wildlife-crossing/

Plenty more on that website. And our unequivocal support for fair chase hunting: https://www.conservationnw.org/about-us/resources/hunting-and-conservation/

You and some others may not like Conservation Northwest, that's fine. But we're far from these extremists filing ridiculous lawsuits, undermining collaborative conservation and wildlife management, and using red meat messaging to blatantly fundraise off it:

[pianoman9701]

Big money-making BS scam. 

[bigdog2u]

Wolfbait, in addition to directly supporting Eastern Washington ranches avoid conflict with wolves, including the gentleman involved in this conflict, CNW has a number of programs benefiting ungulates. To claim that we're at all interested in their demise is nonsense. Here's one: https://www.conservationnw.org/our-work/habitat/okanogan-wildlife-crossing/

Plenty more on that website. And our unequivocal support for fair chase hunting: https://www.conservationnw.org/about-us/resources/hunting-and-conservation/

You and some others may not like Conservation Northwest, that's fine. But we're far from these extremists filing ridiculous lawsuits, undermining collaborative conservation and wildlife management, and using red meat messaging to blatantly fundraise off it:

This is hilarious. I'm sure all the predators will appreciate the wildlife crossings since there won't be any ungulates or prey animals left to use them. If CNW does support fair chase hunting and conservation so much, why don't they support a more aggressive predator control management in Washington state.  CNW has continuously fought for wolves and other predators but I have seen nothing about them trying to actually balance the ecosystem by removing more predators and letting ungulates and other prey animals rebound.  CNW knows they can post pretty pictures of predators and get the tree-huggers to donate large amounts of money to them but nobody is going to give them money to help save ungulates.  If you want CNW to be taken seriously, tell them to support the whole ecosystem instead just using the poor predators issue to fill their coffers.  Until they do that, they are nothing more than hypocritical extremists using animals for $$$$.

[jackelope]

Excuse me while I get the popcorn fired up...

[PlateauNDN]