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good penetration with this set up?
« on: March 17, 2009, 05:50:30 PM »
This will be my first yr. bow hunting.60lbs bow arrows n fused epics 28.5 in 100grn montec brd heads total arrow weight 386grns  29 in draw length 270-280fps.Will this get good penetration on elk?I hope so cuz thats what i got.any comments would be appreciated
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Re: good penetration with this set up?
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2009, 05:52:33 PM »
I would get your weight (grains) up.  And practice....practice...practice!
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Re: good penetration with this set up?
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2009, 05:54:54 PM »
Your arrow should blow right threw an elk!
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Re: good penetration with this set up?
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2009, 05:57:39 PM »
i would like to have my arrow weight up around 400gr out of a 60lb bow.

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Re: good penetration with this set up?
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2009, 06:17:17 PM »
i would like to have my arrow weight up around 400gr out of a 60lb bow.

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Re: good penetration with this set up?
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2009, 06:26:42 PM »
Shot placement will be the most important factor but I like my arrow wieght at just above 400,  I shoot my 70# at 66#'s with my 28" DL.  Practice and tuning with the broadheads (good choice in the Montec's) will get you a good clean kill. 
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Re: good penetration with this set up?
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2009, 07:39:43 PM »
Thanks. I plan on doing my best on trying to wear out a target practicing
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Re: good penetration with this set up?
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2009, 07:48:33 PM »
I would shoot a heavier arrow.. thats awfully light for 60lbs..

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Re: good penetration with this set up?
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2009, 08:47:57 PM »
ill put it like this. dont make the mistake i did...

i was shooting a 390gr arrow/broadhead setup out of a 70lb bow...somewhere around 300fps. the local shop told me my arrows where legal and i was knew to hunting so i thought that i was ok for hunting. NOT!

i lost 2 elk in one week. and almost hung up the bow for good after such a horrible experience.

after talking to a couple guys after losing the second elk. they asked me about my setup and stuff. i told them and they were shocked a archery shop would set me up like that and tell me i was good for hunting.

when myself and my dad were tracking the second elk, we stumbled onto the 1st elk. half my arrow still in it. i had only gotten 4" of penetration. CRAP. i had seen the arrow in the second elk when it took off running and i was maybe 6" into the elk.

i made that mistake of shooting to light, but still legal. had i been shooting proper wieght to get penetration needed i would be telling that horrible story.

 

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Re: good penetration with this set up?
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2009, 09:33:11 PM »
I shoot around 370 grns and had no problem harvesting elk.  However, shot placement is the key.  I don't disagree on the heavier arrow.  If you're only getting about 4" of penetration, you're more likely hitting bone/shoulder blade. 

Shot placement is important.  So you should be fine.  But if you can go heavier, then that will be better.

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Re: good penetration with this set up?
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2009, 10:11:33 PM »
That was my thought, unless the shots were extremely far a 370gr arrow at 300fps should have been more the enough, unless you hit the shoulder... however I still like to go heavier... I shot a 420gr arrow at 59lbs shooting 266fps out of my last hoyt and that passed through a deers shoulders at 52yrds and clean through a bull at 50......

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Re: good penetration with this set up?
« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2009, 09:22:44 AM »
Just remember the key is a SHARP broadhed!!!

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Re: good penetration with this set up?
« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2009, 09:49:52 AM »
I shoot around 370 grns and had no problem harvesting elk.  However, shot placement is the key.  I don't disagree on the heavier arrow.  If you're only getting about 4" of penetration, you're more likely hitting bone/shoulder blade. 

Shot placement is important.  So you should be fine.  But if you can go heavier, then that will be better.

the first elk i had hit a rib. a slick trick should have blown right through a rib. had i been shooting a heavier arrow then i wouldnt have had that problem (more then likely) but you never know...a rib can stop a bullet too. 

the second elk. i will never know.

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Re: good penetration with this set up?
« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2009, 10:19:57 AM »
I shoot around 370 grns and had no problem harvesting elk.  However, shot placement is the key.  I don't disagree on the heavier arrow.  If you're only getting about 4" of penetration, you're more likely hitting bone/shoulder blade. 

Shot placement is important.  So you should be fine.  But if you can go heavier, then that will be better.

the first elk i had hit a rib. a slick trick should have blown right through a rib. had i been shooting a heavier arrow then i wouldnt have had that problem (more then likely) but you never know...a rib can stop a bullet too. 

the second elk. i will never know.

No offense bankwalker, but unless you harvested that bull and can show me pictures, a "rib" never stopped your 390gr arrow out of a 70lb bow.  You hit something else or your shot was around 100yards.  I've blown through both shoulder blades of a 300lb black bear with a 402gr arrow out of a 66lb bow.   My last elk was shot catching the shoulder blade on the near side and through a rib on the far side and I watched the arrow skip into the brush ten yards behind it before the elk even flinched, with the same setup.  I won't believe that a "rib" stopped a 390gr arrow out of a 70lb bow.  Not unless your arrows were so horribly tuned they flew sideways or the shot was close to 100 yards.
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Re: good penetration with this set up?
« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2009, 10:28:41 AM »
I shoot around 370 grns and had no problem harvesting elk.  However, shot placement is the key.  I don't disagree on the heavier arrow.  If you're only getting about 4" of penetration, you're more likely hitting bone/shoulder blade. 

Shot placement is important.  So you should be fine.  But if you can go heavier, then that will be better.

the first elk i had hit a rib. a slick trick should have blown right through a rib. had i been shooting a heavier arrow then i wouldnt have had that problem (more then likely) but you never know...a rib can stop a bullet too. 

the second elk. i will never know.

No offense bankwalker, but unless you harvested that bull and can show me pictures, a "rib" never stopped your 390gr arrow out of a 70lb bow.  You hit something else or your shot was around 100yards.  I've blown through both shoulder blades of a 300lb black bear with a 402gr arrow out of a 66lb bow.   My last elk was shot catching the shoulder blade on the near side and through a rib on the far side and I watched the arrow skip into the brush ten yards behind it before the elk even flinched, with the same setup.  I won't believe that a "rib" stopped a 390gr arrow out of a 70lb bow.  Not unless your arrows were so horribly tuned they flew sideways or the shot was close to 100 yards.

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