Most are not successful in elk hunting, don’t get discouraged.  Heck, I’ve done pretty well with elk but archery is a whole nother experience. Mostly rifle hunted all my life, but getting humbled w archery, didn’t lose a single arrow at the Stevens pass shoot, lost  3 this week.  Missed a 5 point, miss judged distance, and should have killed a spike opening day.  Been out smarted by the same bull twice in 3 days, he got me again today.  Keep at it, there just isn’t anything like a screaming bull in the woods during season.  You’ll get one