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Burning up my barrel is definitely one of my concerns. The LWH has a pretty thin contour, and I don't want to spend money on a new barrel if I don't have to. I get it that competition-quality bull barrels will be able to fire more rounds faster than mine. I'm not in a race to put holes in paper and obviously range work is a time commitment. I'm not shy about that, but I am shy about annealing my barrel...
If nothing else, y'all have convinced me never to leave my other guns at home when going to the range Not that I need much of an excuse to shoot my R American 22WMR...
Quote from: Bushcraft on September 05, 2018, 10:42:56 PMQuote from: yakimanoob on September 05, 2018, 07:58:17 PMLet's not have this discussion about barrel cooling devolve into how many ftlbs is necessary to be ethical, k? I'll only hunt deer to 350yds and buy a 300 Win Mag for elk if it makes you feel better. Do you have any thoughts on how hot is too hot for a barrel during practice? Discussing the ballistic merits - or lack thereof, of taking a 500 yard shot at an elk with a 7mm-08 (when there is a plethora of better options) with a newbie that obviously doesn't understand terminal ballistics is not "devolving", it's nipping a half-baked idea in the bud. Kudos to you for recognizing that something like a 300 Win. Mag. is a better tool for that job.As for barrel heat...Go to a local PSR event. Watch and learn. Heck, participate...they are a TON of fun. You'll witness shooters bark off 8-10 rounds in fairly rapid succession seemingly without concern for barrel heat. The level of sustained accuracy out beyond 600+ yards would likely surprise you. Some very, very hot rifles can still shoot very, very well. Key word...some. But that's beside the point. Instead, as a hunter, you should be focusing on where your first ethical cold bore shot goes. Once you've mastered that and can keep it within 1.5-2 MOA under all field conditions/positions out to 350 yards, then you can seek to understand and integrate what your particular rifle does when it gets progressively hotter. Quote from: hunter399 on September 05, 2018, 08:34:59 PMDon't let these guys get ya down on a 500yard shot.If you can put it in the boiler room at 500 with quality ammo then I say do it . I try to take two or three guns target shoot.trade out after four rounds.If you can hold the barrel for any amount of time your good to keep shooting,if you can only hold it for 5 sec you need to cool,if you can't even touch it hotter than a firecracker you went to far , but may still shoot good when it cools down.I have noticed that ar15 stay a lot cooler I can shoot 10-20 it's about as hot as my bolt action guns with five rounds ,gas blow back or something keeps it cooler ,now a mini 14 I can shoot one mag 20 rds and thing is hotter than fiablo sause.All guns are different for heat up ,it's up to you to know what your gun can handle....and don't let someone that obviously doesn't know what he's talking about give you advise.(advice)
Quote from: yakimanoob on September 05, 2018, 07:58:17 PMLet's not have this discussion about barrel cooling devolve into how many ftlbs is necessary to be ethical, k? I'll only hunt deer to 350yds and buy a 300 Win Mag for elk if it makes you feel better. Do you have any thoughts on how hot is too hot for a barrel during practice? Discussing the ballistic merits - or lack thereof, of taking a 500 yard shot at an elk with a 7mm-08 (when there is a plethora of better options) with a newbie that obviously doesn't understand terminal ballistics is not "devolving", it's nipping a half-baked idea in the bud. Kudos to you for recognizing that something like a 300 Win. Mag. is a better tool for that job.As for barrel heat...Go to a local PSR event. Watch and learn. Heck, participate...they are a TON of fun. You'll witness shooters bark off 8-10 rounds in fairly rapid succession seemingly without concern for barrel heat. The level of sustained accuracy out beyond 600+ yards would likely surprise you. Some very, very hot rifles can still shoot very, very well. Key word...some. But that's beside the point. Instead, as a hunter, you should be focusing on where your first ethical cold bore shot goes. Once you've mastered that and can keep it within 1.5-2 MOA under all field conditions/positions out to 350 yards, then you can seek to understand and integrate what your particular rifle does when it gets progressively hotter. Quote from: hunter399 on September 05, 2018, 08:34:59 PMDon't let these guys get ya down on a 500yard shot.If you can put it in the boiler room at 500 with quality ammo then I say do it . I try to take two or three guns target shoot.trade out after four rounds.If you can hold the barrel for any amount of time your good to keep shooting,if you can only hold it for 5 sec you need to cool,if you can't even touch it hotter than a firecracker you went to far , but may still shoot good when it cools down.I have noticed that ar15 stay a lot cooler I can shoot 10-20 it's about as hot as my bolt action guns with five rounds ,gas blow back or something keeps it cooler ,now a mini 14 I can shoot one mag 20 rds and thing is hotter than fiablo sause.All guns are different for heat up ,it's up to you to know what your gun can handle....and don't let someone that obviously doesn't know what he's talking about give you advise.
Let's not have this discussion about barrel cooling devolve into how many ftlbs is necessary to be ethical, k? I'll only hunt deer to 350yds and buy a 300 Win Mag for elk if it makes you feel better. Do you have any thoughts on how hot is too hot for a barrel during practice?
Don't let these guys get ya down on a 500yard shot.If you can put it in the boiler room at 500 with quality ammo then I say do it . I try to take two or three guns target shoot.trade out after four rounds.If you can hold the barrel for any amount of time your good to keep shooting,if you can only hold it for 5 sec you need to cool,if you can't even touch it hotter than a firecracker you went to far , but may still shoot good when it cools down.I have noticed that ar15 stay a lot cooler I can shoot 10-20 it's about as hot as my bolt action guns with five rounds ,gas blow back or something keeps it cooler ,now a mini 14 I can shoot one mag 20 rds and thing is hotter than fiablo sause.All guns are different for heat up ,it's up to you to know what your gun can handle.
That wasn't from me @Bushcraft
Burning up a barrel shouldn't be a concern for most folks. It takes a whole heck of a lot of rounds to smoke a throat and most won't shoot that many in a lifetime. Bullblaster is spot on. As long as your impacts aren't walking on you she's good to go. That thin barrel will let you know when it's time to cool. Noob, if you wanna burn some powder when they open the L.T. back up let me know. We can get some good data off that 7-08 and see if we cant get her legs stretched out a bit. I've got steel we can run out to 800 and rocks past that all the way out to 1500.
Quote from: Jonathan_S on September 06, 2018, 09:47:40 AM That wasn't from me @Bushcraft yeah but you were thinking it! How dare you sir!
Quote from: Karl Blanchard on September 06, 2018, 09:38:24 AMBurning up a barrel shouldn't be a concern for most folks. It takes a whole heck of a lot of rounds to smoke a throat and most won't shoot that many in a lifetime. Bullblaster is spot on. As long as your impacts aren't walking on you she's good to go. That thin barrel will let you know when it's time to cool. Noob, if you wanna burn some powder when they open the L.T. back up let me know. We can get some good data off that 7-08 and see if we cant get her legs stretched out a bit. I've got steel we can run out to 800 and rocks past that all the way out to 1500.Me too!
Quote from: Karl Blanchard on September 06, 2018, 09:38:24 AMBurning up a barrel shouldn't be a concern for most folks. It takes a whole heck of a lot of rounds to smoke a throat and most won't shoot that many in a lifetime. Bullblaster is spot on. As long as your impacts aren't walking on you she's good to go. That thin barrel will let you know when it's time to cool. Noob, if you wanna burn some powder when they open the L.T. back up let me know. We can get some good data off that 7-08 and see if we cant get her legs stretched out a bit. I've got steel we can run out to 800 and rocks past that all the way out to 1500.Exactly.This is exactly what i said.AS LONG AS YOUR ACCURACY IS NOT FALLING OFF / same as,As long as your impacts aren't walking on you.
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