Not recommended. You can do the goat mnt to deadman and vanson lake hike. 22miles for us round trip and steep to start. Not best for elk but few are there. Behind Ryan better but closed to permit only. Green towards weyco is around 8 miles, did that too. All old forest and very disappointing when the guys from weyco Margeret unit meet ya off the weyco rds 1/2 mile in for them. Always a luck factor a big one might stroll through as one of guys saw this on rd but not great odds and pretty rough hiking to any good areas up top...Also the horse campers have large advantage..