Free: Contests & Raffles.
Ok, so how would you feel if I were following you around with a drone and video taping and taking pictures of you while you were out in the woods hunting/scouting on public land? How would you react? Not kindly I suspect. All I am saying is that some of the cameras that go missing might not be stolen by thieves. They are more likely just taken down by citizens who feel like their rights have been violated. They don't need to "look into their issues" they have every right to be upset that someone they don't know just got a picture of them without their consent. Or back on topic, someone finds an old obviously neglected trail cam in a spot they like to visit and see it for what it is... an eyesore and piece of garbage in the woods. They then remove it the same way they would if they found an old beer can or candy wrapper. I completely understand the frustration of having put the time into finding a good trail and going through the effort of placing a cam only to have it become stolen but you have to look at it from multiple points of view before just assuming your camera was stolen by a low life who took it for personal gain.
I have an idea. Anyone placing a trail cam on public property should be required to leave a note that is protected from the elements stating when that cam was placed and when it will be serviced. If the date is greater than six months expired or no note is left then it’s fair game!
... John Muir's philosophy of preservation as well. Nobody goes out to the woods hoping to find other peoples stuff. When we go out in the woods we do so to reconnect, to re-create. Why should we take that experience away by leaving trail cams up all year long?... If we're not willing to consider others who want to use public lands, then what kind user group are we?
Pretty sure if your on PUBLIC ground (be it forested or covered in cement) any court would affirm that there is NO expectation of privacy, thereby getting your picture taken is NOT an invasion of privacy. The whole idea of something you don't own, suddenly becoming yours without the owner giving it to you is a deffinate problem that appears to be much more common with the younger demographics of our society.
Don’t get bent out of shape guys, was just a suggestion! Yeah maybe the reporting aspect would be better versus taking matters into your own hands. In any case, do you all really want to take away our last frontier and turn it into one big brother all seeing eye!? I think all this techno crap is taking away from the true spirit of hunting if you know what I mean .
Quote from: NoBark on December 18, 2018, 11:53:58 AMPretty sure if your on PUBLIC ground (be it forested or covered in cement) any court would affirm that there is NO expectation of privacy, thereby getting your picture taken is NOT an invasion of privacy. The whole idea of something you don't own, suddenly becoming yours without the owner giving it to you is a deffinate problem that appears to be much more common with the younger demographics of our society. Yup, I am one of the younger generation and know for a FACT that if something isn't nailed down it is MINE. If it is nailed down then I guess I need a crowbar or hammer. What an absurd generalization to be made. For one think about who taught us our sense of right and wrong. Clearly this conversation is rooted in the broader discussion on whether trail cameras belong on public land or not. At present they are and even if they were not I doubt the law would state the proper corrective action is to take it for your personal use. Much more likely that you are to report them. Best to leave them alone. That said if you are running them best to also lock them up and/or place them where others are not likely to find them. Not saying you have to but the unfortunate reality is that there are plenty of culls in this herd of humans we have going.
Quote from: Calvin Rayborn on December 18, 2018, 01:01:05 PM Don’t get bent out of shape guys, was just a suggestion! Yeah maybe the reporting aspect would be better versus taking matters into your own hands. In any case, do you all really want to take away our last frontier and turn it into one big brother all seeing eye!? I think all this techno crap is taking away from the true spirit of hunting if you know what I mean .Quote from: KP-Skagit on December 18, 2018, 12:29:14 PMQuote from: NoBark on December 18, 2018, 11:53:58 AMPretty sure if your on PUBLIC ground (be it forested or covered in cement) any court would affirm that there is NO expectation of privacy, thereby getting your picture taken is NOT an invasion of privacy. The whole idea of something you don't own, suddenly becoming yours without the owner giving it to you is a deffinate problem that appears to be much more common with the younger demographics of our society. Yup, I am one of the younger generation and know for a FACT that if something isn't nailed down it is MINE. If it is nailed down then I guess I need a crowbar or hammer. What an absurd generalization to be made. For one think about who taught us our sense of right and wrong. Clearly this conversation is rooted in the broader discussion on whether trail cameras belong on public land or not. At present they are and even if they were not I doubt the law would state the proper corrective action is to take it for your personal use. Much more likely that you are to report them. Best to leave them alone. That said if you are running them best to also lock them up and/or place them where others are not likely to find them. Not saying you have to but the unfortunate reality is that there are plenty of culls in this herd of humans we have going. Perhaps there could be an established collection point at the trail head where the owners could reclaim them. Something like this. I found some this fall belonging to UofW and the DNR.
