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The ranching family in the article has refused reimbursement despite there being a program in place
QuoteThe ranching family in the article has refused reimbursement despite there being a program in placebecause it's a complete freaking joke!I don't need to explain this to you, but for others reading this in order to be "compensated" WDFW has to first determine the cause of death on a cow, and you've got a very small window of time to find that carcass, get feet dragging WDFW to the scene, and get a confirmation = very unlikely. Also, the cost of a dead calf or cow isn't the most expensive part of having wolves in your cattle. WDFW compensation doesn't coverlost cowslost carcassesold carcassesunbred cowsdead bullslost bullsunderweight cowsgrazing areas not utilized due to presence of wolvesOne rancher had his bull driven clear out of the range and was never found, that's a lot of unbred cows! WDFW doesn't pay for that. WAcoyotehunter knows this, it just doesn't fit the anti-grazing, wilderness agenda.
Despite this being an obviously slanted radical right wing rag, the writer doesn't know what he's talking about. The situation there does suck for the wolves and for the ranchers, but the author of this article has several things wrong. I doubt it matters in this publication though...." In Washington State, shooting a wolf, even to protect your livelihood, comes with a one-year prison sentence and a five-thousand dollar fine." FALSE. in fact one of them shot a profanity peak wolf a couple weeks ago....The State of Washington Refuses to HelpDespite this, the legislature in Olympia is reluctant to assist the ranchers" FALSE. The ranching family in the article has refused reimbursement despite there being a program in place
Wolves are the plague the corrupt USFWS and agencies like WDFW unleashed on rural America, promoting wolf predation of livestock, the decimation of wildlife, attacks on people and the spread of diseases wolves carry.Rogue Pack kills guard doghttp://mailtribune.com/news/top-stories/rogue-pack-kills-guard-dogBeef Bits Brief: Wolf depredation confirmed in CAhttps://www.wlj.net/top_headlines/beef-bits-brief-wolf-depredation-confirmed-in-ca/article_96fff478-bdf9-11e8-8737-535900c86954.html
Quote from: wolfbait on October 07, 2018, 10:08:09 AMWolves are the plague the corrupt USFWS and agencies like WDFW unleashed on rural America, promoting wolf predation of livestock, the decimation of wildlife, attacks on people and the spread of diseases wolves carry.Rogue Pack kills guard doghttp://mailtribune.com/news/top-stories/rogue-pack-kills-guard-dogBeef Bits Brief: Wolf depredation confirmed in CAhttps://www.wlj.net/top_headlines/beef-bits-brief-wolf-depredation-confirmed-in-ca/article_96fff478-bdf9-11e8-8737-535900c86954.htmlDon't forget loss of grazing allotments. 100+ yrs of grazing rights and now state won't renew ranchers 2,500 acres due to wolves in area that has seen significant conflicts over last 5 years. Easier to not renew than deal with killer wolves.
Quote from: mfswallace on October 12, 2018, 06:32:26 AMQuote from: wolfbait on October 07, 2018, 10:08:09 AMWolves are the plague the corrupt USFWS and agencies like WDFW unleashed on rural America, promoting wolf predation of livestock, the decimation of wildlife, attacks on people and the spread of diseases wolves carry.Rogue Pack kills guard doghttp://mailtribune.com/news/top-stories/rogue-pack-kills-guard-dogBeef Bits Brief: Wolf depredation confirmed in CAhttps://www.wlj.net/top_headlines/beef-bits-brief-wolf-depredation-confirmed-in-ca/article_96fff478-bdf9-11e8-8737-535900c86954.htmlDon't forget loss of grazing allotments. 100+ yrs of grazing rights and now state won't renew ranchers 2,500 acres due to wolves in area that has seen significant conflicts over last 5 years. Easier to not renew than deal with killer wolves.Aren't the grazing allotments on Federal land? The state doesn't control grazing allotments on Federal land. That's either the BLM, NFS, USDA, Interior, etc.
Doesnt seem like we are going to win anyone over or make any allies by saying the dep. is corrupt or using cute little names like wdfwolves. I agree that we need some policy change to ensure the protection of private ranchers’ livelihood and public wildlife. I think we make change by creating friendships and allies and showing the truth of what we see without villainizing and bad mouthing those who we find on the other side of the fence from us.
I agree its not fair. My family lives off raising cattle and have wolves around their summer pastures. Theyve been lucky so far but the neighbors havent. I agree that the wolf program as it was wasnt right for the ranchers of the west. I agree that people who dont live in the area shouldnt be driving the policies of said area. I agree we should be upset about it. I just do t agree with the delivery. I dont see how it helps the cause. Thats all
I would never say theres NO corruption in WDFW. Theres bound to be a certain level of corruption in any organization whether it be government or private. Do I believe the entire dfw is corrupt, absolutely not. Maybe theres a higher level of corruption in the wolf sector, i could buy that. But to generalize that all of wfdw is corrupt just waters down the entire argument and weakens your voice. Have they fallen short when it cones to wolves YES. When it comes to taking action in some circumstances their hands are probably tied by the state legislature. The whole system is kinda messy so its hard for me to just slap the blame squarely on Wdfw. And playing the blame game doesnt really solve the current problem anyways
Good, because WDFW has a lot of water that needs carrying. I can't think of much they've handled well? Can you help me out and find some projects they've done a good job with?
Years ago, I'm assuming due to my volunteer work with a wildlife rehabber in Olympia, I found myself on an emailing list of some far left folks who were pushing for the hound hunting ban and trapping ban, and later the wolf project.The end goal had absolutely nothing to do with protecting bears and cats. The end goal was to have a wild predator base that was large enough to push out any biological argument to keep big game hunting as a legal tool for deer and elk population control. If enough top end natural predators were in the woods keeping deer and elk numbers in check, then they felt there would be a better chance to outlaw all big game hunting. After all in Seattle and the other left rag cities, who wants to see pictures of starving wolf pups?We're getting closer to their end goal every year.