Scope question???

[wastickslinger]

I'll trade you for my Martin Firecat. 

No wait... it might be an antique and worth some money.

[mkcj]

i love my Nikon scopes just bought an 800 rangefinder also. Was also told that Nikon makes a lot of the glass out there for other makers Leupold being one of them. Just what i was told anyway

[high country]

actually aside from the euro stuff, most glass is made by one maker, ashai IIRC manufactures but from them and spec the grades they want, top quality glass is good, but better coatings make a big diff over just the glass. kinda like chevy....they make the geo through the corvette

[wastickslinger]

I was looking at the VX-III 4.5-14 X 40 with the B&C reticle. Is there that much difference from the VX-II to the VX-III? Any opinions? 

I am going to the Cabelas Special invite on 11/7/07 in Post Falls. Hopefully I can snag a good deal on a scope over there. I hope the bargain cave is stocked up.

[Buckshot Bill]

I was looking at the VX-III 4.5-14 X 40 with the B&C reticle. Is there that much difference from the VX-II to the VX-III? Any opinions? 

I am going to the Cabelas Special invite on 11/7/07 in Post Falls. Hopefully I can snag a good deal on a scope over there. I hope the bargain cave is stocked up.

I've owned a VX-II 4-12 X 40 Adj. Obj. for a number of years now and really like it compared to many I've used and seen.  I'm sure there are lots of really good scopes out there though.  It fit my budget good when I built my Winchester Model 70 300 Weatherby Mag.  As far as the difference that I've seen or heard, VX-III has more reticle type selections than the VX-II as well as more power selections.  The technology is newer so the lens systems are different.  When you get to the higher power/long range scopes the windage and elevation adjustments and parallax focus are done with the fingers instead of a screw driver/tool.  Not sure what else the difference is.  I would ask the person at Cabelas when you are looking at them.  They should know quite a bit also.  I do know that in low light conditions my VX-II sucks in any light and makes it real easy to see stuff.

[wastickslinger]

Compared a few today. Nikon Monarch 5-20X44AO. And Leupold VX-III 4-14X40AO. I really couldnt tell a difference in the clarity and I like the idea of the 20 power just in case I want to do a little bench shooting at real small critters. Anyone have a good reason to chose one over the other? Thanks.

[high country]

those are both fine scopes, I like the leuy over the monarch just cause I have had warranty issues with both and leuy does in weeks what nikon does in months. Did you look at the 4200......that is my choice in the class?

[wastickslinger]

I did look at the 4200. For some reason I cant bring myself to spending $400-500 on a Bushnell. Probably because I am use to bushnel being a $50 scope from Wal-Mart. Mental thing I guess. But I will admit it looked pretty nice.

The Monarch has a few little details over the VX-III in my price range. Like side focus, 44 mil instead of 40 and up to 20X instead of 18X. Just minor details but as far as the clarity I honestly couldnt tell. The number one reason I am leaning Leupold is warranty. Tough call, it will likely come down to a coin toss in the store?

[high country]

I hear ya on the bushnell name.....that is why I only refer to them as 4200. I have a early 4200 that says bausch&lomb, it is my prize. I hate to admit it, but the only thing the 4200 gives up to the leuy or nikon is weight. the rainguard is worth its weight in gold to me...just me. If it matters, I am pulling my swarovski off to put a 4200 in its place. I need a reliable scope and swaro just has not been there for me......expensive lesson.

[wastickslinger]

I have heard a lot of good about the 4200. I might give in someday. 

I ended up buying the Nikon Monarch 5-20X44 with the AO on the side. I really like the eye relief and the easy focus. Super clear when i looked through it today with the overcast. I figured I better save a few bucks on my scope since I spent a little extra over at the New Cabelas yesterday.

Thanks for everyones input. Just came down to the best deal. I am still kinda tight when it comes to hunting small game. I figure a grand into a yote gun is more than enough. My bow wasn't even that much and it is what I use the most.

[Intruder]

I hear ya on the bushnell name.....that is why I only refer to them as 4200. I have a early 4200 that says bausch&lomb, it is my prize. I hate to admit it, but the only thing the 4200 gives up to the leuy or nikon is weight. the rainguard is worth its weight in gold to me...just me. If it matters, I am pulling my swarovski off to put a 4200 in its place. I need a reliable scope and swaro just has not been there for me......expensive lesson.

This will be the next scope I purchase.  I've been a devoted Leupold guy for 20 years but I just can't justify the $ for em anymore when compared to the quality in some of the stuff out there these days.  4200 is really a nice scope and a great value.

BTW... the Monarch's I've looked through seem to be great scopes.  Very good glass and really clear.  Please keep us informed on how you like it once you get it into the field.

[littletoes]

Go the next step....try the TMR reticle.
It can be installed in any VX III Luppy. 

But, like said above, you have to SHOOT it in order to KNOW where your firearm is hitting at said ranges.....and if your not gonna practice STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM THEM.

We've got enough guys out there banging away at game animals regardless of the range.

Do they work? HELL YES.
This past year an American Sniper hit an insurgent at 1200 meters using his MIL's.......oh yea, and that was with a 308.

[NORRISKI2]

I have a Rem 700 VLS 22-250 with a 5 x 15 x 50mm Bushnell 3200 scope.  Fairly nice scope, but I think there is better scopes out there for the price.  Look at Burris Fullfield II, signature series, or black diamond with a ballistic plex reticle.  I have a 3 x 12 x 44mm signature select with posi lock and a ballistic plex reticle on a .300 WSM Tikka T3 lite that I use for deer / elk hunting.  IMHO, I don't think there is a better scope on the market in that price range.