t/c encore scope ring/hammer/thumb clearance

[jackelope]

i know there's a couple of guys on here with encores. i don't want to use a hammer extension for fear of breaking the hammer. it happens, and t/c won't warranty it. i have leupold dual dovetails medium height and i still can't fit my thumb in between the scope and hammer. i don't think i have fat fingers  but maybe i do. do i go to a high ring? the scope still sits real low with medium rings. i tried a weaver medium height, same deal. i'm curious to know what you guys that have these guns are doing. i could live with it the way it is right now, but would rather get it working smoothly to where i don't have to worry about smushing my thumb between the hammer and scope.
the scope is a nikon 4.5-14x40sf buckmaster...which doesn't seem to be oddly shaped or anything.
help!!

[catwithboost]

I use a hammer extension made of aluminum. I got it off ebay. I figure it will brake before the TC hammer 

[jackelope]

i just took the medium rings back and swapped for some high rings. i'll try them. that gun handles differently than a bolt gun so i don't think the high rings will be an issue.
the other thing i learned is that worrying about the warranty is pointless because it is not valid to a 2nd owner anyway.

[big iron]

 Jackelope, my encore 460 barrell has the t/c scope on it and I have no problem w/ hammer/ thumb clearance, is the 15" encore pistol barrell tho, maybe a diff there? As far as 2nd owner warranty I thiunk u will find t/c stands behind their prods. no matter what owner u are, Robo and I discovered that with his smokepole when we learned triple 7 is hotter than reg black powder, they replaced his hawkins stock that cracked and just said don't use that in that gun! He also just got a black diamond that had a stripped sling screw, they said send stock back and they will replace it. I think that is pretty good for a co. to stand behind their prods. nowadays, just my    and hopefully some info for u.......

[jackelope]

thanks big iron.
i bet the difference is the scope. i put the high rings on last night and they will work like a champ. the scope is not high at all either due to the design of the rifle....so i'm a happy camper.
thanks again.

[Missing]

One other option is you can send your frame into TC and for $65 they will install the Pro-hunter swing hammer and send it back to you.

[catwithboost]

One other option is you can send your frame into TC and for $65 they will install the Pro-hunter swing hammer and send it back to you.

But to do that you have all the ffl fees right?

[CP]

One other option is you can send your frame into TC and for $65 they will install the Pro-hunter swing hammer and send it back to you.

But to do that you have all the ffl fees right?

No, you can send any firearm to and from the manufacturer without going through an FFL. 

[jackelope]

is the swing hammer really that cool? i've read it's not all it's cracked up to be either.

 

i'm an encore newbie.

[jdb]

Anyone know if you can get weatherby barrels for encore's?

[jackelope]

never seen a weatherby caliber.

http://www.eabco.com/encore.html

[HawkenBob]

Your warrenty is good no matter how many transfers. TC has been awesome to deal with...

[Missing]

My son has a prohunter with the swing hammer and it works pretty damn slick. I am going to send in my encore and have it done, I have owned a TC for more than 20 years and have always had good luck with them. As far as waranty I just bought a used 10" 222 remington barrel and the extractor is broke, I called TC and they told me to remove the extractor and mail it back and they will send me a new one free of charge.

[BlackRidge]

thanks big iron.
i bet the difference is the scope. i put the high rings on last night and they will work like a champ. the scope is not high at all either due to the design of the rifle....so i'm a happy camper.
thanks again.

Little late, but thanks for starting this Jackelope,
 
Picked up my Encore tonight, threw a 3x9 on the leupold medium rings that came with it and started freaking out over the same lack of clearance.. Nice to know someone dealt with the same scenario and found a good fix

[jackelope]

I actually changed it up a little. I know have the Bellm TC's hammer extender on it along with the heavier hammer springs they recommend. It is THE solution for the clearance problem if you ask me. You just got to put the heavier hammer spring in it to prevent misfire. The additional weight of the hammer extender, as little as it is, could cause a misfire. It took me 10 minutes tops to install those 2 things, and another 5 minutes to install their oversized hinge pin. You also should make sure the 3 set screws are tight on the extender now and then. My gun's a tack driver and my go to rig now.

[CAMPMEAT]

Hammers won't break.

[CAMPMEAT]

You would need an FFL to ship the frame. You can't buy the frame without the FFL so you can't ship it either. Correct me if I'm wrong. I've never been able to buy a frame without an FFL dealer getting it for me.

[BlackRidge]

I actually changed it up a little. I know have the Bellm TC's hammer extender on it along with the heavier hammer springs they recommend. It is THE solution for the clearance problem if you ask me. You just got to put the heavier hammer spring in it to prevent misfire. The additional weight of the hammer extender, as little as it is, could cause a misfire. It took me 10 minutes tops to install those 2 things, and another 5 minutes to install their oversized hinge pin. You also should make sure the 3 set screws are tight on the extender now and then. My gun's a tack driver and my go to rig now.

Ahha, did you end up going with the medium rings as well, or just go with the extender/hinge pin/HD spring? I ordered those 3 peices after seeing your reply, had been giving them some serious thought before, but your post pretty much sealed the deal.  Can you tell if the extender being off to the side make it harder to pull back, or if the hammer twists at all in the process?  Thanks Jack

Heading out to the woods to put a few rounds through it and punish my shoulder some! (300win w/ no flex-tech  )

Campmeat, not sure where the FFL stuff came from, but yea, the frame is the only piece an FFL is required for

[jackelope]

Still have the medium rings. Now it's a Tally Lightweight 1 piece. The extender did not make a very noticeable difference as far as pulling the hammer. Maybe a little harder but not enough to make a difference.
I am also shooting a 300wm barrel without a flext tech. The key is the Defensive Edge brake on it.
 

[Skyvalhunter]

So you have the rifle version of the encore? I have the 30-06 pistol version. They are a kick in the pants

[jackelope]

So you have the rifle version of the encore? I have the 30-06 pistol version. They are a kick in the pants

I do, yes...I love mine. Also have a .22-250 barrel for it.
There's a few on here that have them.
30-06 pistol....yeehaw...Is that kinda like hitting a baseball with an aluminum bat on a really cold day?

[BlackRidge]

Still have the medium rings. Now it's a Tally Lightweight 1 piece. The extender did not make a very noticeable difference as far as pulling the hammer. Maybe a little harder but not enough to make a difference.
I am also shooting a 300wm barrel without a flext tech. The key is the Defensive Edge brake on it.
 

Oooo nice setup, I assume medium height on the Talley mount? Did you have to buy the completed barrel from DE? Sorry for all the questions

Was expecting more kick from it today, honestly seemed like there was notably less recoil with it, than with my 30-06 or 270...(go encore!) I did just about knock myself out on the 3rd shot though. Definitely need to remember to keep my distance from that scope

[CAMPMEAT]

I've got a 450 Marlin 15 inch barrel in T/C. Plus a few more. Wholly crap batman.......

[CAMPMEAT]

The frame is like a pistol. You can't ship them without an FFL holder doing it. You could try and send it UPS/FEDEX, but that might be a risk. 

[Wazukie]

The frame is like a pistol. You can't ship them without an FFL holder doing it. You could try and send it UPS/FEDEX, but that might be a risk. 

This only true if shipping to a private party. If you are shipping to the manufacturer, then no FFL needed.  I have done this a few times with my H&R to have new barrels fitted.

[jackelope]

Still have the medium rings. Now it's a Tally Lightweight 1 piece. The extender did not make a very noticeable difference as far as pulling the hammer. Maybe a little harder but not enough to make a difference.
I am also shooting a 300wm barrel without a flext tech. The key is the Defensive Edge brake on it.
 

Oooo nice setup, I assume medium height on the Talley mount? Did you have to buy the completed barrel from DE? Sorry for all the questions

Was expecting more kick from it today, honestly seemed like there was notably less recoil with it, than with my 30-06 or 270...(go encore!) I did just about knock myself out on the 3rd shot though. Definitely need to remember to keep my distance from that scope

Yes medium height Tally.
No I had a smith install the brake that I bought from DE. It's the heavy 26" 300wm barrel. About $80 for the brake and he milled and installed it for another $80.00. It makes all the difference in the world if you don't mind a little noise. The last time I shot at the range I was told by the guy sitting next to me that it "speaks with authority". I can watch my target through the scope all the way through the shot.