State will kill remaining 2 wolves of pack killing cattle

[Ridgeratt]

http://www.khq.com/story/39366417/state-will-kill-remaining-2-wolves-of-pack-killing-cattle


State will kill remaining 2 wolves of pack killing cattle
Posted: Oct 26, 2018 11:25 AM PDT
Updated: Oct 26, 2018 11:25 AM PDT


 

SPOKANE, Wash. -
The state has decided to kill the remaining two wolves from a pack that has repeatedly preyed on cattle in the Kettle River Range of Ferry County.
 
The state Department of Fish and Wildlife says it documented another wolf depredation on Tuesday, bringing the total to 16 attributed to the Old Profanity Territory pack.
 
Agency Director Kelly Susewind on Friday ordered the remaining two wolves killed.
 
The state had earlier killed the other members of the pack, and conducted an evaluation period to see if attacks on cattle would stop.
 
The agency says the rancher has taken steps to deter wolves.
 
The Center for Biological Diversity has criticized the killing of wolves, and says this is the fourth pack the state has decimated to protect the cattle of one rancher.

[MtnMuley]

Perfect.

[Gobble Doc]

They could probably sell tags for those 2 wolves in a raffle and make some money.

[bornhunter]

This just illustrates why they should never have been reintroduced to begin with. Wolves will do what wolves do. Decimate wild game and domestic livestock. Get it over with and get rid of all of them and save the state and ranchers a bunch of$$$. 

[Ridgeratt]

From the WDFW wolf page:

https://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/gray_wolf/graphics/pack_map_033018.jpg


https://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/gray_wolf/packs/


If you open the link the WDFW refers to the Profanity Peak pack as a Former pack.


The wolf map doesn't even show them existing anymore either.

Someone explain how that works to me please.

[jstone]

What’s the odds there are some more? They just saying the last two?

Would you bet on those Odds

[lamrith]

From the WDFW wolf page:

https://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/gray_wolf/graphics/pack_map_033018.jpg


https://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/gray_wolf/packs/


If you open the link the WDFW refers to the Profanity Peak pack as a Former pack.


The wolf map doesn't even show them existing anymore either.

Someone explain how that works to me please.

Pack has very specific criteria, and is more than just a pair.  Something like a mating pair and so many pups I believe.  So given only 2 are left, it is no longer a pack (In WDFW technical speak)

[Ridgeratt]

smoke and mirrors


DEFINITION
NORTH AMERICAN
the obscuring or embellishing of the truth of a situation with misleading or irrelevant information.

[KFhunter]

WDFW speak: The former pack no longer meets the definition of a "pack", therefore no longer exists.

Country boy speak:  WDFW is full of crap, they didn't shoot the whole pack there's plenty of dogs still there to breed next spring. 


If WDFW shoots either breeder alpha male or alpha female; then the pack no longer is a "pack".  Sure there'll be a "new pack" this spring as one of the subs steps up into that role and have pups.


It might take a few years to get that "new" pack re-confirmed though (which is just remnants of the old pack).....probably after they knock down some more cattle.

[PA BEN]

 

[Gobble Doc]

Semantics




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[wolfbait]

WDFW speak: The former pack no longer meets the definition of a "pack", therefore no longer exists.

Country boy speak:  WDFW is full of crap, they didn't shoot the whole pack there's plenty of dogs still there to breed next spring. 


If WDFW shoots either breeder alpha male or alpha female; then the pack no longer is a "pack".  Sure there'll be a "new pack" this spring as one of the subs steps up into that role and have pups.


It might take a few years to get that "new" pack re-confirmed though (which is just remnants of the old pack).....probably after they knock down some more cattle.

 

Next year won't be any different then this year, same predation same WDFW pretending to want to help while wolves kill more cattle.

[Ridgeratt]

WDFW speak: The former pack no longer meets the definition of a "pack", therefore no longer exists.

Country boy speak:  WDFW is full of crap, they didn't shoot the whole pack there's plenty of dogs still there to breed next spring. 


If WDFW shoots either breeder alpha male or alpha female; then the pack no longer is a "pack".  Sure there'll be a "new pack" this spring as one of the subs steps up into that role and have pups.


It might take a few years to get that "new" pack re-confirmed though (which is just remnants of the old pack).....probably after they knock down some more cattle.

Unfortunately this is becoming the norm instead of the exception. Ask anyone who understands canine social pack structure. They will tell you there is already a successor waiting in the wings. 

[bornhunter]

 

WDFW speak: The former pack no longer meets the definition of a "pack", therefore no longer exists.

Country boy speak:  WDFW is full of crap, they didn't shoot the whole pack there's plenty of dogs still there to breed next spring. 


If WDFW shoots either breeder alpha male or alpha female; then the pack no longer is a "pack".  Sure there'll be a "new pack" this spring as one of the subs steps up into that role and have pups.


It might take a few years to get that "new" pack re-confirmed though (which is just remnants of the old pack).....probably after they knock down some more cattle.

 

Next year won't be any different then this year, same predation same WDFW pretending to want to help while wolves kill more cattle.

[Magnum_Willys]

yep last two wolves of pack leaves 3 which isnt a pack but will be in spring.