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Re: Initiative 1639
« Reply #120 on: November 07, 2018, 06:21:47 AM »
When does I-1639 become law?
It will be in the courts for a while I suspect. 
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Re: Initiative 1639
« Reply #121 on: November 07, 2018, 06:22:36 AM »
I believe it becomes law on December 1st, if remember correctly.

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Re: Initiative 1639
« Reply #122 on: November 07, 2018, 06:25:04 AM »
I believe it becomes law on December 1st, if remember correctly.

July 1 2019

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Re: Initiative 1639
« Reply #123 on: November 07, 2018, 06:25:51 AM »
I believe it becomes law on December 1st, if remember correctly.
I hope you are wrong........  Can we carve King County out as a Separate State yet?   :bash:

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Re: I-1639 mega thread
« Reply #124 on: November 07, 2018, 06:26:52 AM »
I wish wyoming wasn't so cold, we love the 4 seasons but in wyoming its winter for 9 months.  Idaho or Montana is sounding really good right now, this state and it's liberal pukes can kiss my butt.  unreal the wave a socialism around here, these a holes love their taxes and less freedom, I just don't get it.  This country of ours is changing and I don't like it one bit.
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Re: Initiative 1639
« Reply #125 on: November 07, 2018, 06:28:59 AM »
The minimum age of 21 for purchasing an "assault rifle" is supposed to go into effect January 1, 2019.

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Re: I-1639 mega thread
« Reply #126 on: November 07, 2018, 06:29:22 AM »
The initiative sounds like it doesn't include semi-automatic shotguns. I wonder why?

So an 18 year old could still buy a semi auto shotgun but not a Ruger 10/22?
As it is written yes. I suspect shotguns aren't used as often as rifles in mass shootings.
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Re: WA-1639 Initiative
« Reply #127 on: November 07, 2018, 06:32:17 AM »
BT, thanks for the info on storage and illegal entry. I want to be sure I know what this means. If my house or car is locked (assuming the firearm is out of sight in the car) and I don't have a gunlock on the firearm, I'm exempted from the gun lock requirement penalties if someone breaks in and steals the firearm. Is that correct, in your opinion?
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Re: I-1639 mega thread
« Reply #128 on: November 07, 2018, 06:33:29 AM »
Last night, we were discussing a move to either Austin or Louisville.
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Re: Initiative 1639
« Reply #129 on: November 07, 2018, 06:33:59 AM »
The minimum age of 21 for purchasing an "assault rifle" is supposed to go into effect January 1, 2019.

This is what I was referring to with December 1st. Evidently I was off by a month

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Re: I-1639 mega thread
« Reply #130 on: November 07, 2018, 06:36:08 AM »
I like the language of “prohibited person” in the storage requirement what the heck does that mean? Way to vague against 2nd, 4th and 5th amendments
Not vague at all.

Per the initiative, "prohibited person" means a person who is prohibited from possessing a firearm under state or federal law.
What about 594? Registered to one person, but someone else has access?
Prohibited person is any person who can't possess a firearm whether it be because their a felon, underage, etc. Not a person who can't possess your firearm because you haven't legally transferred it to them yet (assuming they can legally possess a gun).

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Re: WA-1639 Initiative
« Reply #131 on: November 07, 2018, 06:37:14 AM »
BT, thanks for the info on storage and illegal entry. I want to be sure I know what this means. If my house or car is locked (assuming the firearm is out of sight in the car) and I don't have a gunlock on the firearm, I'm exempted from the gun lock requirement penalties if someone breaks in and steals the firearm. Is that correct, in your opinion?
If you report it stolen within five days of noticing it was stolen, yes.
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Re: I-1639 mega thread
« Reply #132 on: November 07, 2018, 06:40:29 AM »
The initiative sounds like it doesn't include semi-automatic shotguns. I wonder why?

So an 18 year old could still buy a semi auto shotgun but not a Ruger 10/22?
As it is written yes. I suspect shotguns aren't used as often as rifles in mass shootings.

They will be back next year for the shotguns. This passed by 60%. I think they can write any law they want at this point.
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Re: WA-1639 Initiative
« Reply #133 on: November 07, 2018, 06:50:47 AM »
I hate King County our governor and The AG
:yeah: KING county is a sickening debilitating disease , along with down town Tacoma !! And what the hell happened to port angelas and sequim?? I actually feel bad for you eastside folks, the west side isn’t pulling its weight, bunch of damn sick liberals over here  :bash: :bash:
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Re: Initiative 1639
« Reply #134 on: November 07, 2018, 06:55:08 AM »
Lost for words. If anybody with half a brain read the ENTIRE initiative, they would vote NO. Thanks Paul Allen.

That was part of the problem since the initiative was 30 pages.

Hopefully it will be challenged under the multiple clause rule.

 


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