I-1639 mega thread

[actionshooter]

Sounds like the kind of “hunter” who voted yes... he probably read that super biased summary in the pamphlet and said, “Eh, I don’t use assault rifles...”. All those scary weapons of war like a 10/22, Nylon 66, or Marlin Model 60 have no place on our streets.

I don't know if that is a fair statement.  The classes will address different subjects and people.   It is common sense for WDFW to divorce themselves from the I-1639 classes which at present nobody in the world knows what needs to be taught and who certifies it as such.

I believe part of the reason WDFW would separate themselves would be the possibility that this could overwhelm the hunter ed resources. 

[JimmyHoffa]

Sounds like opportunity.  Get people that would normally not get hunt ed/licenses, and then you now have people that can just go get a license and don't have the excuse of not having had hunt ed.

[bobcat]

Sounds like the kind of “hunter” who voted yes... he probably read that super biased summary in the pamphlet and said, “Eh, I don’t use assault rifles...”. All those scary weapons of war like a 10/22, Nylon 66, or Marlin Model 60 have no place on our streets.

I don't know if that is a fair statement.  The classes will address different subjects and people.   It is common sense for WDFW to divorce themselves from the I-1639 classes which at present nobody in the world knows what needs to be taught and who certifies it as such.

[Bob33]

I suspect that courses like this one from the NRA will become acceptable.

https://www.nrainstructors.org/CourseDetails.aspx?Courseid=483222&seats=10&State=n&zip=98075&radius=200.1&id=4&bsa=&youth=&women

[ghosthunter]

I think the courts should a least put 1639 on hold until the supporters can come up with classes and those classes are available to the public for a period of time before the law can be put in effect.

If you cannot meet the requirement because a class does not exist. I would think that is infringement.

[Stein]

The state doesn’t certify classes.  The instructor must be certified by someone like the NRA and then they certify the course meets the state requirements.


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[Bob33]

It wouldn't surprise me but would be ironic if the NRA is the primary supplier of courses.

Of course they will need to be offered not only in English but also Spanish, Chinese, Korean, Vietnamese, Arabic, French... subsidies for the needy...online courses for the immobile...on site courses for the homeless...tutors for the developmentally challenged...

[Britt-dog]

I suspect that courses like this one from the NRA will become acceptable.

https://www.nrainstructors.org/CourseDetails.aspx?Courseid=483222&seats=10&State=n&zip=98075&radius=200.1&id=4&bsa=&youth=&women

Ironic that the NRA may have to step up and develop a program for this. That's wrong on several levels.

[Caseyd]

 

[Igor]

I know that people on this forum like to bash the NRA, however the NRA and the SAF are both currently working on legal challenges to 1639.  Please, find a way to send a contribution, no matter how big or small, to either of these groups.  Right now that is our only hope to fight this mindless political attack on our rights.

You can donate online to the SAF...............I just sent them $100.

https://www.saf.org/

[BearCreekCookBook]

Seattle truely has gone insane, here is a video in case you haven’t been to the *censored*ty city lately.

[whacker1]

I know that people on this forum like to bash the NRA, however the NRA and the SAF are both currently working on legal challenges to 1639.  Please, find a way to send a contribution, no matter how big or small, to either of these groups.  Right now that is our only hope to fight this mindless political attack on our rights.

You can donate online to the SAF...............I just sent them $100.

https://www.saf.org/

there is a petition for the whitehouse as well.
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/abolish-unlawful-unjust-and-unconstitutional-gun-laws-washington-state-i-1639

[Tundra]

I know that people on this forum like to bash the NRA, however the NRA and the SAF are both currently working on legal challenges to 1639.  Please, find a way to send a contribution, no matter how big or small, to either of these groups.  Right now that is our only hope to fight this mindless political attack on our rights.

You can donate online to the SAF...............I just sent them $100.

https://www.saf.org/

there is a petition for the whitehouse as well.
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/abolish-unlawful-unjust-and-unconstitutional-gun-laws-washington-state-i-1639

Can the feds do much in a state matter?  I signed the petition, but is there anything they can do?  (Out of curiosity) ??

[whacker1]

I know that people on this forum like to bash the NRA, however the NRA and the SAF are both currently working on legal challenges to 1639.  Please, find a way to send a contribution, no matter how big or small, to either of these groups.  Right now that is our only hope to fight this mindless political attack on our rights.

You can donate online to the SAF...............I just sent them $100.

https://www.saf.org/

there is a petition for the whitehouse as well.
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/abolish-unlawful-unjust-and-unconstitutional-gun-laws-washington-state-i-1639

Can the feds do much in a state matter?  I signed the petition, but is there anything they can do?  (Out of curiosity) ??

I have no idea.  I wondered the same thing, but wanted to share it when I saw the endeavor.

[Knocker of rocks]

Looking ar DOJ involvement with civil rights and voting rights in other states, I believe they could.   I doubt they will because very onerous gun laws in NYC and other cities have been allowed to stand.

What I will be interested in is how the SCOWa views this initiave in the light of how many issues it addresses.  That was the down fall of many of Tim Eymans initiaves, which could indicate a couple of things
1) the late Paul Allen and firends hired a better lawyer to write it up.   
2) Tim Eyman didn't care if his initaive passed judiary scrutiny, his actual paying job was to get them to the ballot hell or high water.  That's why he repeated the same mistake over and over and he never learned to correct his ballot mistakes.
3) The SCOWa is jobbed against Eyman's initaives.

I think the answer is a combination of all three, probably in a ratio of 32.5/45/22.5