2 BIG Blacktail. Going about getting permission on private land.

[stickslinger]

Do not do the card in the mail!!! Every time we get one of these it screams lazy! And immediately gets round filled. Not all land owners are the same but a general conversation can go along way, I can get a pretty good read on someone after a 5 min conversation

[PastorJoel]

Dig up some dirt on them and then black mail them. JUST KIDDING!!

Perhaps you can tell them that their garden or flowers will be safer.

[Kvw4x4]

Little update.  So yesterday when I got pictures of this buck I went and asked for permission. The renter contacted the owner while I was there and he said to tell me no hunting.  I felt like using the renter in the middle was probably not the best way to go about it.  But it was a spur of the moment thing. I used my onX but couldn’t find anything on the written owner. So I google the tax  address.  A Canadian one. I came up with a number and called it.  The property owner answered.  I explained why I called and he said ya I know I was called yesterday by the renter and said no.  I kinda kept talking to him admitting I didn’t really think it was right to contact him through his renter.  I then offered to help him with work or other needed repairs, I noticed he had no “no hunting” signs anywhere he said he really has never had people ask for permission to hunt.  But a couple years ago somebody shot a window out on a shop he has.  I told him the first this I would do is post the property and also be willing to keep an eye on it.  He started  to change his tune.  And pulled his “no” off the table.  But said he needs to talk to the Neighbour’s a bit and will then let me know.  So now I wait. Haha. So much anticipation.  I also told him I would be willing to only bow hunt. I have a multi season deer tag.

[Griiz]

Way to stay at it and possibly get a yes. That 2nd buck looks like a pretty special blacktail.

[huntnfmly]

Way to stay after it sounds like you did good they way you were talk8ng to him

[pd]

Play the long game.

If he tells you "No," or if he doesn't tell you anything, and you have to call again, counter-offer him this.  Give up on this season, and ask him to let you prove yourself in 2019 (fixing fences, etc.).  I'lll bet you a nickel you get permission next year. 

[STIKNSTRINGBOW]

Do not do the card in the mail!!! Every time we get one of these it screams lazy! And immediately gets round filled. Not all land owners are the same but a general conversation can go along way, I can get a pretty good read on someone after a 5 min conversation

If the landowner is not local, it might be hard to have a face to face conversation.

[DeArBuCK4me]

Bring a child with you and a Christmas basket full of goodies--permission granted on first try. If they refuse then bow your head and walk away humbly take your gift and instruct the child to cry-- next thing you know you will be killing the buck.

[Kvw4x4]

Do not do the card in the mail!!! Every time we get one of these it screams lazy! And immediately gets round filled. Not all land owners are the same but a general conversation can go along way, I can get a pretty good read on someone after a 5 min conversation

If the landowner is not local, it might be hard to have a face to face conversation.

He lives 30 min away.  For a a buck like this no big deal

[Stein]

Little update.  So yesterday when I got pictures of this buck I went and asked for permission. The renter contacted the owner while I was there and he said to tell me no hunting.  I felt like using the renter in the middle was probably not the best way to go about it.  But it was a spur of the moment thing. I used my onX but couldn’t find anything on the written owner. So I google the tax  address.  A Canadian one. I came up with a number and called it.  The property owner answered.  I explained why I called and he said ya I know I was called yesterday by the renter and said no.  I kinda kept talking to him admitting I didn’t really think it was right to contact him through his renter.  I then offered to help him with work or other needed repairs, I noticed he had no “no hunting” signs anywhere he said he really has never had people ask for permission to hunt.  But a couple years ago somebody shot a window out on a shop he has.  I told him the first this I would do is post the property and also be willing to keep an eye on it.  He started  to change his tune.  And pulled his “no” off the table.  But said he needs to talk to the Neighbour’s a bit and will then let me know.  So now I wait. Haha. So much anticipation.  I also told him I would be willing to only bow hunt. I have a multi season deer tag.

Nice, I heard an podcast where they guy does the same thing about posting the property free for the owner.  He also references the laws and offers a signed paper releasing the owner of any liability if he gets hurt.  You may consider something like that, maybe even agreeing in writing to cover any damage you cause or even agreeing to only hunt certain portions of the property that are X yards (well lower than maximum weapon range) from buildings, etc.

[Kvw4x4]

We talked today he was asking his insurance.  I offered to get coverage of some sort.  Anyone know anything about this. What company? How much would it cost? Thanks

[Blacktail Sniper]

If you have homeowner's insurance, call and ask your agent.  If not, if your auto insurance also does homeowner's call them, they should be able to give to informed answers fairly quickly. 

Good luck!

[throwingsticks]

just sign a release see this NRA one
http://hservices.nra.org/documents/pdf/hunterservices/hunter_landowner_agreement.pdf

[NWghostgetter]

 

[GodLovesUgly]

Yup what you need to do is sign a RELEASE OF LIABILITY WAIVER for the landowner.  This will be signed by you and state that in the event of any personal injury or property damage incurred by you on his property you RELEASE HIM from LIABILITY for any such things.  This can be filed with his insurance company, and he is fully protected against you suing for any reason.

I work with private landowners frequently, and we always use these to put the landowners minds at ease.  You should be able to easily find a demo waiver form on Google.

Good luck sounds like it's going to work out!