collapse

Advertisement


Author Topic: Mule Deer Poaching - Fur Fish Game Magazine  (Read 7706 times)

Offline Alpine Mojo

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Longhunter
  • *****
  • Join Date: Dec 2008
  • Posts: 640
  • Location: Holding out in King County
Mule Deer Poaching - Fur Fish Game Magazine
« on: December 13, 2018, 02:53:33 PM »
On page 5 of the December issue of FFG they report on a 6 year study in south-central Oregon where the number of illegally poached mule deer exceeded the number of mule deer taken legally.   If that is true then I would figure WA isn't far behind as we are right next door, geographically and politically.  Anyone have any insight on the statistics for Washington State?
Friend: "Are you free tonight?"
Me:  (Gazing into the distance as a bald eagle screeches)  "I'm always free"

Offline Rainier10

  • Administrator
  • Trade Count: (+5)
  • Explorer
  • *****
  • Join Date: Dec 2010
  • Posts: 16048
  • Location: Over the edge
Re: Mule Deer Poaching - Fur Fish Game Magazine
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2018, 03:03:25 PM »
I have heard estimates of 2 poached for every 1 taken legally in Washington in some areas.  I don't have a study to back that up, just rumblings I have heard.

Poaching is a huge problem in Washington.
Pain is temporary, achieving the goal is worth it.

I didn't say it would be easy, I said it would be worth it.

Every father should remember that one day his children will follow his example instead of his advice.


The views and opinions expressed in this post are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of HuntWa or the site owner.

Offline elkboy

  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Dec 2010
  • Posts: 1810
  • Location: Corvallis, Oregon
Re: Mule Deer Poaching - Fur Fish Game Magazine
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2018, 03:18:03 PM »
We need to put pressure on the court system to hand down sentences that will actually fit the crime. We also need to out pressure on the Legislature to earmark funding for wildlife enforcement. And I do mean earmark funding, so that DFW has no choice but to allocate those funds to wildlife officers, vehicles, etc.

Offline Alpine Mojo

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Longhunter
  • *****
  • Join Date: Dec 2008
  • Posts: 640
  • Location: Holding out in King County
Re: Mule Deer Poaching - Fur Fish Game Magazine
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2018, 03:26:50 PM »
Those are insane numbers!  There can't be that many dishonest people in this world.  But I have been wrong before.
Friend: "Are you free tonight?"
Me:  (Gazing into the distance as a bald eagle screeches)  "I'm always free"

Offline WSU

  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Mar 2009
  • Posts: 5506
Re: Mule Deer Poaching - Fur Fish Game Magazine
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2018, 03:28:58 PM »
Think how easy it would be to get away with it?  Middle of the night, no season going on so no reason for enforcement to be around, etc.  Damn near the only way to get caught would be to get pulled over on the way home.

And, courts don't care.  They care far more about drugs and DUI than some deer that got shot in the woods.

Offline bigtex

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Explorer
  • ******
  • Join Date: Dec 2009
  • Posts: 10637
Re: Mule Deer Poaching - Fur Fish Game Magazine
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2018, 03:30:25 PM »
We also need to out pressure on the Legislature to earmark funding for wildlife enforcement. And I do mean earmark funding, so that DFW has no choice but to allocate those funds to wildlife officers, vehicles, etc.
Already done in WA

Offline Rainier10

  • Administrator
  • Trade Count: (+5)
  • Explorer
  • *****
  • Join Date: Dec 2010
  • Posts: 16048
  • Location: Over the edge
Re: Mule Deer Poaching - Fur Fish Game Magazine
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2018, 03:40:24 PM »
I am guessing that I have been involved in at least 40 deer harvested and 20 elk harvested and only had 3 checked by a game warden.  That's 57 animals that never needed to be tagged.  Could have just got them out of the woods, butchered at home and been hunting poaching the next weekend.

It wouldn't be that hard and like others have said if you get caught it's a slap on the wrist.

The rules keep the honest people honest.

Poaching is a huge issue with everything from clams and shrimp to moose.
Pain is temporary, achieving the goal is worth it.

I didn't say it would be easy, I said it would be worth it.

Every father should remember that one day his children will follow his example instead of his advice.


The views and opinions expressed in this post are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of HuntWa or the site owner.

Offline Gringo31

  • Washington For Wildlife
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: May 2009
  • Posts: 5607
Re: Mule Deer Poaching - Fur Fish Game Magazine
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2018, 03:45:56 PM »
Throw trespass in there as well......


We must reject the idea that every time a law's broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions.
-Ronald Reagan

Offline bigtex

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Explorer
  • ******
  • Join Date: Dec 2009
  • Posts: 10637
Re: Mule Deer Poaching - Fur Fish Game Magazine
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2018, 03:47:08 PM »
Poaching is a huge issue with everything from clams and shrimp to moose.
And that's the truth in every state. Only Florida has 24/7/365 statewide game warden coverage, and as a result they are the state with the most game wardens. However, even with that many officers poaching is still a big problem in Florida.

About 10 years ago a staffing study was conducted by the International Association of Chiefs of Police (IACP) that found just to provide adequate coverage WDFW needed to double the amount of officers it has. Notice I said adequate and not 24/7/365 coverage. Since that time the number of officers has risen slightly (less than 10). There are several counties in WA that do not have a WDFW Officer residing in them, and haven't for some time. This requires officers in neighboring counties to patrol them as well.

Offline PolarBear

  • Site Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (+4)
  • Explorer
  • ******
  • Join Date: Mar 2007
  • Posts: 10468
  • Location: Tatooine
Re: Mule Deer Poaching - Fur Fish Game Magazine
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2018, 03:53:20 PM »
In my local area elk are poached at least 5 X legal kills.

Offline Rainier10

  • Administrator
  • Trade Count: (+5)
  • Explorer
  • *****
  • Join Date: Dec 2010
  • Posts: 16048
  • Location: Over the edge
Re: Mule Deer Poaching - Fur Fish Game Magazine
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2018, 04:03:12 PM »
Throw trespass in there as well......
I told Scott to go for it if he was on cat tracks next week.  :chuckle:  Leave those dogs for us and our new years shoot.   :tup:
Pain is temporary, achieving the goal is worth it.

I didn't say it would be easy, I said it would be worth it.

Every father should remember that one day his children will follow his example instead of his advice.


The views and opinions expressed in this post are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of HuntWa or the site owner.

Offline Griiz

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (+3)
  • Longhunter
  • *****
  • Join Date: Oct 2012
  • Posts: 664
  • Location: Puget Sound
  • Groups: RMEF
Re: Mule Deer Poaching - Fur Fish Game Magazine
« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2018, 04:04:53 PM »
Those are insane numbers!  There can't be that many dishonest people in this world.  But I have been wrong before.


One dishonest person or group can harvest a lot of animals.
« Last Edit: December 13, 2018, 04:24:36 PM by Rainier10 »

Offline Mtnwalker

  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (+2)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2015
  • Posts: 2302
  • Location: Selah
Re: Mule Deer Poaching - Fur Fish Game Magazine
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2018, 04:19:02 PM »
I am guessing that I have been involved in at least 40 deer harvested and 20 elk harvested and only had 3 checked by a game warden.  That's 57 animals that never needed to be tagged.  Could have just got them out of the woods, butchered at home and been hunting poaching the next weekend.

It wouldn't be that hard and like others have said if you get caught it's a slap on the wrist.

The rules keep the honest people honest.

Poaching is a huge issue with everything from clams and shrimp to moose.

I’d almost guess that more poachers are caught through word of mouth than by LEO in the field at the time of the incident. Seems like the blatant poachers always get off easy and the guys making honest mistakes get hammered

Offline Rainier10

  • Administrator
  • Trade Count: (+5)
  • Explorer
  • *****
  • Join Date: Dec 2010
  • Posts: 16048
  • Location: Over the edge
Re: Mule Deer Poaching - Fur Fish Game Magazine
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2018, 04:24:50 PM »
Those are insane numbers!  There can't be that many dishonest people in this world.  But I have been wrong before.


One dishonest person or group can harvest a lot of animals.
:yeah:
Pain is temporary, achieving the goal is worth it.

I didn't say it would be easy, I said it would be worth it.

Every father should remember that one day his children will follow his example instead of his advice.


The views and opinions expressed in this post are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of HuntWa or the site owner.

Offline elkboy

  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Dec 2010
  • Posts: 1810
  • Location: Corvallis, Oregon
Re: Mule Deer Poaching - Fur Fish Game Magazine
« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2018, 04:45:45 PM »
We also need to out pressure on the Legislature to earmark funding for wildlife enforcement. And I do mean earmark funding, so that DFW has no choice but to allocate those funds to wildlife officers, vehicles, etc.
Already done in WA

Thanks for weighing in, Bigtex.  Is it having an effect?  Is there room for additional advocacy?  If you can point me to some more information, I'd appreciate it. 

 


* Advertisement

* Recent Topics

Cat tracks? by Goshawk
[Today at 02:57:01 PM]


Bass Pro Strikes Again by Rat44
[Today at 02:51:14 PM]


AUCTION: Custom knife by Alden Cole by Dan-o
[Today at 02:38:53 PM]


2025 Canning by Twispriver
[Today at 02:34:58 PM]


Please Comment on new Game management Plan, RE Furbearers by Katalla
[Today at 02:13:14 PM]


Share your out of state experience by Threewolves
[Today at 01:24:12 PM]


WSTA 2025 Summer Rendezvous Agenda by JakeLand
[Today at 11:15:59 AM]


Mamma's and babies by Brute
[Today at 11:15:50 AM]


Time to refi? by pianoman9701
[Today at 10:42:51 AM]


Heartbroken!!! by FamilyMan01
[Today at 09:12:23 AM]


Montana general deer by Wingin it
[Today at 08:18:54 AM]


Best Rifle Zero Distance. by EnglishSetter
[Today at 01:14:19 AM]


Pork belly street tacos….. by jrebel
[Yesterday at 09:54:24 PM]


Any Rec Tec users here ? by fowl smacker
[Yesterday at 09:39:10 PM]


More Kings! by highside74
[Yesterday at 09:26:17 PM]


Get out the Band-Aids and streri strips by nwwanderer
[Yesterday at 08:42:01 PM]


Opening morning by MADMAX
[Yesterday at 08:32:28 PM]


KODIAK06 2025 trail cam and personal pics thread by Dan-o
[Yesterday at 11:04:45 AM]


Willapa Hills 1 Bear by catdog
[Yesterday at 10:30:44 AM]

SimplePortal 2.3.7 © 2008-2025, SimplePortal