I got my pointing lab from Lankas Labs in Kansas. Fantastic pet and a good hunter (3yrs old).... I also got a pudelpointer from marshland gun dogs out of MN and he is a great pet and hunter. (1yr)... If you want a versitle dog that is a balls out hunter/pointer and doesn't shed go with a pudelpointer. Great family dog too. While I love my lab and currently trust him more in the field, the PP is an absolute stud and will overtake the lab based on drive. They are both great in the house and I have a 2yr old and a 6 mo old kids. Great temperament. (Wife got pregnant and I got a dog each time, some weird nesting right there!)