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Re: Lead ammo ban for youth under 21 HB 1346
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2019, 06:23:44 PM »
I don’t agree with the bill, but there is the exemption for you to be able to buy the lead ammo and give it to your kid, so the only change is that your son couldn’t go buy it himself.

I can't find the exemption you mentioned, only the part about not being able transfer or supply the ammunition to the person under age.

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Re: Lead ammo ban for youth under 21 HB 1346
« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2019, 06:41:21 PM »
They are trying to denigrate shooting as a sport.

Gun shops will have to put up a scare poster about lead bullets.

Moms will see that and won't want their kids in shooting clubs.

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Re: Lead ammo ban for youth under 21 HB 1346
« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2019, 06:44:38 PM »
It's part of their "death by a thousand papercuts" strategy.

And, you have to hand it to them:   It is working.   

We keep losing little bits at a time.        >:(
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Re: Lead ammo ban for youth under 21 HB 1346
« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2019, 09:36:48 PM »
Let's also note that most all lead bullets with no jacketing are cheap 22lr ammo... there mya be some in jacketed bullets in some cowboy action  calibers but for the most part this is a snow job

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Re: Lead ammo ban for youth under 21 HB 1346
« Reply #19 on: January 31, 2019, 12:06:40 AM »
Democrats aren't qualified to discuss guns or the well being of children.

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Re: Lead ammo ban for youth under 21 HB 1346
« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2019, 06:28:47 AM »
I don’t agree with the bill, but there is the exemption for you to be able to buy the lead ammo and give it to your kid, so the only change is that your son couldn’t go buy it himself.

I can't find the exemption you mentioned, only the part about not being able transfer or supply the ammunition to the person under age.
Section 3(a), which also allows for the ammo to be given to the youth by anyone as long as it is permitted by their parent or legal guardian. So, the bill wouldn’t have any “safety” benefits, just a bunch more hoops to jump thru for no reason.

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Re: Lead ammo ban for youth under 21 HB 1346
« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2019, 06:32:14 AM »
So the law permits parenting, which was done in the first place?  Well done, dems.  We are saved!

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Re: Lead ammo ban for youth under 21 HB 1346
« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2019, 06:33:28 AM »
So the law permits parenting, which was done in the first place?  Well done, dems.  We are saved!
But now the Dept of Health could come in and double check your parenting skills.  :chuckle:

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Re: Lead ammo ban for youth under 21 HB 1346
« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2019, 06:36:28 AM »
That's reassuring.

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Re: Lead ammo ban for youth under 21 HB 1346
« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2019, 10:06:12 AM »
Let's also note that most all lead bullets with no jacketing are cheap 22lr ammo... there mya be some in jacketed bullets in some cowboy action  calibers but for the most part this is a snow job

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All competition .22 ammo for precision shooting that I have seen in 4 years is NOT jacketed. And believe me, if you are a serious shooter, it is not cheap ammo.

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Re: Lead ammo ban for youth under 21 HB 1346
« Reply #25 on: January 31, 2019, 05:34:05 PM »
Let's also note that most all lead bullets with no jacketing are cheap 22lr ammo... there mya be some in jacketed bullets in some cowboy action  calibers but for the most part this is a snow job

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All competition .22 ammo for precision shooting that I have seen in 4 years is NOT jacketed. And believe me, if you are a serious shooter, it is not cheap ammo.
Ok I wasn't aware of that... My main point is this. All lead bullets with no jacketing make up a small percent of ammo, so trying to play this up as "child safety" and using the age of 21 is pure BS.

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Re: Lead ammo ban for youth under 21 HB 1346
« Reply #26 on: January 31, 2019, 06:18:40 PM »
Doesn’t the bill state any bullet with lead? Not just non jacketed?

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Re: Lead ammo ban for youth under 21 HB 1346
« Reply #27 on: January 31, 2019, 06:43:23 PM »
They need to be called out on their deliberate deception and/or gross stupidity, publically and otherwise. Will this become another law that LE will ignore adding further to the corporate chaos of Olympia.

A teenager for many years target practiced behind the barn now can no longer participate in youth rifle sports, a year later he enters the Armed Forces and given really big guns to practice with. What has the ill informed Olympia elite achieved? The state was not made safer, healthier, or more sane. And, their deception is more exposed.

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Re: Lead ammo ban for youth under 21 HB 1346
« Reply #28 on: January 31, 2019, 06:45:02 PM »


Doesn’t the bill state any bullet with lead? Not just non jacketed?
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"(a) It is unlawful for any person to sell, transfer, give, or otherwise make available any ammunition other than nonlead ammunition to a person who is under the age of twenty-one years. For the purposes of this section, "nonlead ammunition" means ammunition that does not contain any lead content, excluding trace amounts of lead."

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Re: Lead ammo ban for youth under 21 HB 1346
« Reply #29 on: January 31, 2019, 07:08:13 PM »
My point has more to do with handling of most ammo does not put you in direct contact with lead.

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