Free: Contests & Raffles.
Quote from: Stein on February 11, 2019, 08:38:33 PMQuote from: sagerat on February 11, 2019, 08:05:04 PMIn my opinion it’s just a matter of too many people wanting an extremely limited amount of tags. Am I wrong or is Washington’s system identical to Nevada’s?Pretty close although they have landowner tags and a waiting period after you draw a tag before you can apply again. There are also a few other rules like being able to turn the tag in for a refund of money and points and the ability to buy points only after the draw.Their points system works the same way, which is to say you gather points and have horrific odds at drawing a tag.AND....Nevada only gives 10% to non residents. The great state of Washington doesn’t care who gets the tags in fact, they would prefer all tags to go to non residents because WDFW gets more money! I’ve drawn 2 awesome tags in Nevada in 6 years....I drew one ok tag in WA in 14.
Quote from: sagerat on February 11, 2019, 08:05:04 PMIn my opinion it’s just a matter of too many people wanting an extremely limited amount of tags. Am I wrong or is Washington’s system identical to Nevada’s?Pretty close although they have landowner tags and a waiting period after you draw a tag before you can apply again. There are also a few other rules like being able to turn the tag in for a refund of money and points and the ability to buy points only after the draw.Their points system works the same way, which is to say you gather points and have horrific odds at drawing a tag.
In my opinion it’s just a matter of too many people wanting an extremely limited amount of tags. Am I wrong or is Washington’s system identical to Nevada’s?
Yeah, but they get a refund if they don't draw.I'm sure there are isolated cases where there are few tags, or even one for a draw and it goes to a NR. I would guess that is very likely and probably limited to out of state family.For goats and sheep, there are probably more NR applications just due to the limited places to hunt them and the long odds. For elk and deer, you would be better off applying everywhere and WA last.
Quote from: Stein on February 12, 2019, 10:07:03 AMYeah, but they get a refund if they don't draw.I'm sure there are isolated cases where there are few tags, or even one for a draw and it goes to a NR. I would guess that is very likely and probably limited to out of state family.For goats and sheep, there are probably more NR applications just due to the limited places to hunt them and the long odds. For elk and deer, you would be better off applying everywhere and WA last.Are you sure about the refund? I just can’t fathom Wdfw giving money back to anyone. I think as far as deer and elk go they just end up with an expensive spike tag.
Quote from: chester on February 12, 2019, 10:36:02 AMQuote from: Stein on February 12, 2019, 10:07:03 AMYeah, but they get a refund if they don't draw.I'm sure there are isolated cases where there are few tags, or even one for a draw and it goes to a NR. I would guess that is very likely and probably limited to out of state family.For goats and sheep, there are probably more NR applications just due to the limited places to hunt them and the long odds. For elk and deer, you would be better off applying everywhere and WA last.Are you sure about the refund? I just can’t fathom Wdfw giving money back to anyone. I think as far as deer and elk go they just end up with an expensive spike tag.Licenses for moose, goat, and mountain sheep are not purchased until an applicant is drawn. The license fee is not fronted for OIL species. For other species such as deer and elk a hunting license must be purchased to apply for special permits, and that cost is not refunded.
I don't think many non-residents apply, it would be interesting to see the numbers.
For non-residents, it is difficult to justify applying for Washington’s special, better quality draw hunts for deer and/or elk. In order to apply for these draw hunts, you must first purchase a non-refundable deer and/or elk license, both of which are well over $400. If you are unsuccessful in the draw, you are stuck with a general tag. Unless you have connections in Washington, we do not recommend that you try the general hunts; therefore, in the Huntin’ Fool® magazine, since we cover all of the western states from a non-resident perspective, we only cover the sheep, moose, and goat draw information in Washington.In Washington, when you apply as a non-resident for sheep, goat, or moose, you must purchase a $110.50 Special Hunt Permit Application for each species. You then submit the application, and if you are lucky enough to draw, you purchase the $1,652 sheep, goat, or moose license. Hunters under the age of 16 at the time of application pay $3.80 for each application for moose, sheep, or goat, and if drawn, they then pay $57 for the tag. Washington manages their sheep, goat, and moose populations very conservatively, so hunters typically run extremely high success rates.Washington has different categories of permits for moose and sheep, such as 65 years and over permits, youth permits, disabled permits, master hunter permits, and antlerless and ewe permits. Typically all of these permits are for female animals only. Hunters can apply for these permits in addition to the regular permits, so you may receive more than one sheep or moose permit in 1 year, just not two trophy permits. Check the regulations for more information on these types of hunts. All of Washington’s sheep, goat, and moose draw permits are allocated through the draw process without regard to resident or non-resident hunter status; therefore, the draw odds are the same for residents and non-residents.In addition to Washington’s regular drawing, they also have a unique raffle permit drawing system for deer, elk, moose, Mountain goat, and sheep. The raffle tickets you purchase may be for a single species or a package of multiple species. These raffle tickets must be purchased through Washington’s license vendors. For more information on these raffle packages, species available, and cost, consult Washington’s 2014 Big Game Hunting Seasons and Regulations booklet or go to http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/permits/.Non-resident hunters looking to hunt sheep, goat, or moose should look hard at Washington and decide if it’s one of the states they should apply in. It costs a non-refundable $110.50 per application for moose, goat, and sheep. That is a lot of money for a state with tough draw odds.The best piece of information in this whole state section is what Washington does for the youth. If you have kids that have their hunter education and are under 16 years old, then you should be applying them for moose, goat, and sheep. You will be able to apply a kid for moose, goat, and sheep for $11.40 total for all three! That’s right, it is only $3.80 to apply a youth for sheep, goat, or moose. If they are lucky enough to draw the tag, it will only cost $57. Thank you Washington for treating the youth right! The raffle tags are another way to go. Just remember that you cannot buy raffle tags online or over the phone. You must buy them at a vendor in Washington. Check out this year’s raffle packages on the WDFW website.
I can see non-resident youth applying, especially for OIL permits. Their cost is less than adult residents for both the application, and the tag if drawn.
Quote from: Bob33 on February 12, 2019, 10:20:32 AMI can see non-resident youth applying, especially for OIL permits. Their cost is less than adult residents for both the application, and the tag if drawn.I’ve always wondered that. So non res youth pay youth prices?
