BHA threatens Forest Service with lawsuit over public access

[KFhunter]

There's also an online petition to sell Montana to Canada for 1 trillion to ease national debt.


https://www.change.org/p/christian-moms-against-private-education-sell-montana-to-canada-for-1-trillion-to-eliminate-the-national-debt

[NumaJohn]

Ha! Well, KFhunter, as a native Montanan, I will have to NOT sign that petition, but that's a funny post.

The fact that senators from Alaska are behind the transfer of federal public lands? Not as funny.

John

[KFhunter]

Ha! Well, KFhunter, as a native Montanan, I will have to NOT sign that petition, but that's a funny post.

The fact that senators from Alaska are behind the transfer of federal public lands? Not as funny.

John

If you read back a ways I was dubious of the bill and said I needed to research it before I could support it (or come out against it) didn't BHA do their research?   

Why do they support this bill?

[fireweed]

The sad reality is that today the USFS moves only when prodded by lawsuits. I imagine the BLM is the same way.  I've run into this here in Washington, where I've pointed out to the USFS that they are going against their own plans, breaking their own guidelines and laws.  My community has sent letters, petitions, had hearings, gotten our congresswoman to question them and push on issues.  Their management plans say one thing, but they are doing the exact opposite.  But with nobody suing them....nothing changes.  It's their modus operandi today: just don't do anything until someone sues. 

I am glad that the BHA has threatened to sue the Forest Service.  The sad truth is that lawsuits are the only thing that makes the USFS move today. 

[jmscon]

The sad reality is that today the USFS moves only when prodded by lawsuits. I imagine the BLM is the same way.  I've run into this here in Washington, where I've pointed out to the USFS that they are going against their own plans, breaking their own guidelines and laws.  My community has sent letters, petitions, had hearings, gotten our congresswoman to question them and push on issues.  Their management plans say one thing, but they are doing the exact opposite.  But with nobody suing them....nothing changes.  It's their modus operandi today: just don't do anything until someone sues. 

I am glad that the BHA has threatened to sue the Forest Service.  The sad truth is that lawsuits are the only thing that makes the USFS move today.

USFS won’t do anything unless prodded because they don’t have any money. Their budget has been cut so many times and they stopped logging for the most part so money is slim.

It’s the same with WDFW, huge short fall and they are scrambling to make up some of the money. They can’t afford to go into a bunch of litigation over things like wolves in the eastern third so they just stay put and hope no one sues them.

[birddogdad]

There's also an online petition to sell Montana to Canada for 1 trillion to ease national debt.


https://www.change.org/p/christian-moms-against-private-education-sell-montana-to-canada-for-1-trillion-to-eliminate-the-national-debt

i would be all for Chicago, NYC and SOCAL to sell off.....

[j_h_nimrod]

The sad reality is that today the USFS moves only when prodded by lawsuits. I imagine the BLM is the same way.  I've run into this here in Washington, where I've pointed out to the USFS that they are going against their own plans, breaking their own guidelines and laws.  My community has sent letters, petitions, had hearings, gotten our congresswoman to question them and push on issues.  Their management plans say one thing, but they are doing the exact opposite.  But with nobody suing them....nothing changes.  It's their modus operandi today: just don't do anything until someone sues. 

I am glad that the BHA has threatened to sue the Forest Service.  The sad truth is that lawsuits are the only thing that makes the USFS move today.

USFS won’t do anything unless prodded because they don’t have any money. Their budget has been cut so many times and they stopped logging for the most part so money is slim.

It’s the same with WDFW, huge short fall and they are scrambling to make up some of the money. They can’t afford to go into a bunch of litigation over things like wolves in the eastern third so they just stay put and hope no one sues them.

[j_h_nimrod]

The sad reality is that today the USFS moves only when prodded by lawsuits. I imagine the BLM is the same way.  I've run into this here in Washington, where I've pointed out to the USFS that they are going against their own plans, breaking their own guidelines and laws.  My community has sent letters, petitions, had hearings, gotten our congresswoman to question them and push on issues.  Their management plans say one thing, but they are doing the exact opposite.  But with nobody suing them....nothing changes.  It's their modus operandi today: just don't do anything until someone sues. 

I am glad that the BHA has threatened to sue the Forest Service.  The sad truth is that lawsuits are the only thing that makes the USFS move today.

USFS won’t do anything unless prodded because they don’t have any money. Their budget has been cut so many times and they stopped logging for the most part so money is slim.

It’s the same with WDFW, huge short fall and they are scrambling to make up some of the money. They can’t afford to go into a bunch of litigation over things like wolves in the eastern third so they just stay put and hope no one sues them.

It is interesting that the other land agencies are in financial straits, yet the Park Service can drop millions to buy up land around Lake Quinault, move goats, and still complain about not having funds to maintain their current domain...