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Re: MOA, explained by an internet expert
« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2019, 12:37:09 PM »
My head hurts trying to figure out what he's saying. I give up my vision is starting to blur from reading that too many times.

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Re: MOA, explained by an internet expert
« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2019, 12:20:01 PM »
LR rifles are passe'

now we call them ELR rifles  :chuckle:

Theres a guy who I’ve shot with for nearly 10 years and he’s recently started using the term ELR. 10 years ago we just called 1300 yards “really far”, now everything over 1000 is ELR.  :bash:

Back then most of folks were shooting 338s and I was the crazy guy with a 375. Now everyone is either going small bore with a 20# 6mm or over the top with a 35# 375 to eliminate the recoil. What happened to the good old days when 24x scopes were high powered and nobody complained about the heavy recoil from a 14# 243? :dunno: :chuckle:

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Re: MOA, explained by an internet expert
« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2019, 12:39:45 PM »
LR rifles are passe'

now we call them ELR rifles  :chuckle:

Theres a guy who I’ve shot with for nearly 10 years and he’s recently started using the term ELR. 10 years ago we just called 1300 yards “really far”, now everything over 1000 is ELR.  :bash:

Back then most of folks were shooting 338s and I was the crazy guy with a 375. Now everyone is either going small bore with a 20# 6mm or over the top with a 35# 375 to eliminate the recoil. What happened to the good old days when 24x scopes were high powered and nobody complained about the heavy recoil from a 14# 243? :dunno: :chuckle:
its because anything under 1000 yards is boring 😴  The E is for exciting. 😎 :chuckle:
« Last Edit: February 19, 2019, 12:45:58 PM by jasnt »
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Re: MOA, explained by an internet expert
« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2019, 04:02:42 PM »
Soooo, would 6012 yards (3.4 miles) be called something like EEEELR or Extra Extra Extra Extreme Long Range?  :yike:

To even get close, let alone make hits at 6000+ yards is crazy and a TOF of 17 seconds is just fricken wild, that is one he11 of a long time to get there.


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Re: MOA, explained by an internet expert
« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2019, 04:04:45 PM »
Those guys get to have all the fun
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Re: MOA, explained by an internet expert
« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2019, 04:07:43 PM »
Soooo, would 6012 yards (3.4 miles) be called something like EEEELR or Extra Extra Extra Extreme Long Range?  :yike:


Naw, it goes like this:
 
LR    = 500 to 1000 yards
ELR  = 1000 to 2000 yards
2LR  = 2000 to 3000 yards
3LR  =3000 to 4000 yards

and then those guys at 6LR!

« Last Edit: February 19, 2019, 04:21:21 PM by KFhunter »

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Re: MOA, explained by an internet expert
« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2019, 04:11:27 PM »
Those guys get to have all the fun

They probably deserve their own topic but that is a seriously crazy distance and I couldn't even imagine waiting 17 seconds for the bullet to get there.  Granted, they're using some very expensive and specialty equipment, but even at that, these guys definitely have their sh1t together.

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Re: MOA, explained by an internet expert
« Reply #22 on: February 19, 2019, 04:30:42 PM »
Those guys get to have all the fun

They probably deserve their own topic but that is a seriously crazy distance and I couldn't even imagine waiting 17 seconds for the bullet to get there.  Granted, they're using some very expensive and specialty equipment, but even at that, these guys definitely have their sh1t together.
ive seen a bunch of squawking about this shot but I talked to Paul about it on fb. They weren’t trying for any record just out confirming dope and decided to try it for fun
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Re: MOA, explained by an internet expert
« Reply #23 on: February 19, 2019, 06:09:21 PM »
Soooo, would 6012 yards (3.4 miles) be called something like EEEELR or Extra Extra Extra Extreme Long Range?  :yike:


Naw, it goes like this:
 
LR    = 500 to 1000 yards
ELR  = 1000 to 2000 yards
2LR  = 2000 to 3000 yards
3LR  =3000 to 4000 yards

and then those guys at 6LR!



So 6000 would be like “L333333TR”

 :chuckle:

How do the even see 3.4 miles let alone hit it  :dunno:
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Re: MOA, explained by an internet expert
« Reply #24 on: February 19, 2019, 06:31:23 PM »
What magnification do you need for that?  Meade or Celestron side mount?

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Re: MOA, explained by an internet expert
« Reply #25 on: February 19, 2019, 06:36:53 PM »
I’m pretty sure he is running 7x35 actar
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Re: MOA, explained by an internet expert
« Reply #26 on: February 19, 2019, 06:44:35 PM »
Not anywhere near enough, didn't you read the thread? :dunno:

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Re: MOA, explained by an internet expert
« Reply #27 on: February 19, 2019, 06:46:45 PM »
Anyone else dying for that "internet expert" opinions of what these guys did wrong on the 3.4 mile shot?

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Re: MOA, explained by an internet expert
« Reply #28 on: February 19, 2019, 06:48:41 PM »
I would be interested in what the calculated hold was, got to be a ton of factors in that distance.

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Re: MOA, explained by an internet expert
« Reply #29 on: February 19, 2019, 06:57:22 PM »
I would be interested in what the calculated hold was, got to be a ton of factors in that distance.

10 degree up angle, I believe he said

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