Coyotes luring dogs

[bornhunter]

So if you are out in the boonies with your lab and your dog comes barreling out if the brush with a songdog nipping at her heels and you just happen to be carrying a 223 with you and you just happen to smoke the sucker, is that coyote hunting with dogs?

[Samloffler]

Nah, that's protecting your livestock.

[bornhunter]

 

Nah, that's protecting your livestock.

[boneaddict]

So if you are out in the boonies with your lab and your dog comes barreling out if the brush with a songdog nipping at her heels and you just happen to be carrying a 223 with you and you just happen to smoke the sucker, is that coyote hunting with dogs?

Probably in their eyes but not in most peoples.   As law abiding as I try to be, I'm sure there is an RCW out there that vilifies my existense, in other words I wouldn't lose much sleep over it. 

[bornhunter]

So if you are out in the boonies with your lab and your dog comes barreling out if the brush with a songdog nipping at her heels and you just happen to be carrying a 223 with you and you just happen to smoke the sucker, is that coyote hunting with dogs?

Probably in their eyes but not in most peoples.   As law abiding as I try to be, I'm sure there is an RCW out there that vilifies my existense, in other words I wouldn't lose much sleep over it.

Yeah, would probably boil down to which WDFW officer checked you out. This actually happened when my dog went down an old logging road and was a good distance away and she started barking which she had never done before. I blew my whistle and she came running back with a coyote right on her butt trying to hamstring her. The yote didnt see me so as soon as my dog cleared the yote it was game over for that songdog. Ever since if my dog sees, hears or smells a yote she goes nuts and wants to after them.

[Stein]

A lot of that requires effectively telling the story.  If you are proactive by calling it in, and are able to clearly say what happened and what your thoughts were that led up to the action, it goes a long way.

I would have no worry at all if I ended up shooting any animal if I was out with my dog doing something else and it got attacked.

[AWS]

Right after they enacted the no dog laws I had a meeting with the F&G to see if we could at least get the wording changed but it was pretty futile.  They had studied some videos of using decoy dogs and sight hound and thought it was too close to dog fighting when the dogs would go in to finish wounded ones or catch them.

I used to hunt with a dog and he would lay at my side and use his nose to warn me of any coming down wind into the call or spot ones I missed out in the brush.  I was told it was still illegal because the dog was there while hunting coyote.  When asked about shooting a coyote while bird hunting I was told it wasn't the intent of the law BUT it would be in the hands of the officer observing it.

My dog and I hunted all over the west but in WA he had to stay in the truck.

[Toddthebossboy]

Can someone please help me get rid of the coyotes on our property in Olympia they have been killing our pets. We have a a lot of land for you to work on and we can pay you... text me if your interested 360688 6036 only serious and professional only please just text unless it’s later in the day when I can answer

[konradcountry]

So if you are out in the boonies with your lab and your dog comes barreling out if the brush with a songdog nipping at her heels and you just happen to be carrying a 223 with you and you just happen to smoke the sucker, is that coyote hunting with dogs?

You'd have to appear to be hunting coyote to get a ticket. If you are just going for a walk and you have a gun then you are defending your dog from a wild animal.

But that would never happen with a lab.

Coyotes go after toy dogs and cats. In suburban areas they figure out how to act like a friendly domestic dog and pets go right up to them.

[AL WORRELLS KID]

Who needs a Dog..... just use your foot to lure them in, those dangerous "Pampered Predators".  (Now imagine it was your 5 year old out playing by himself in the snow, not so cute!)   
Doug

[Jonathan_S]

So if you are out in the boonies with your lab and your dog comes barreling out if the brush with a songdog nipping at her heels and you just happen to be carrying a 223 with you and you just happen to smoke the sucker, is that coyote hunting with dogs?

You'd have to appear to be hunting coyote to get a ticket. If you are just going for a walk and you have a gun then you are defending your dog from a wild animal.

But that would never happen with a lab.

Coyotes go after toy dogs and cats. In suburban areas they figure out how to act like a friendly domestic dog and pets go right up to them.

I've seen plenty full sized dogs baited by coyotes. Co-worker had his husky ripped to death by a pair. My parents black and tan coonhound goes about 83# and had his flanks opened up and I saw that happen. Sure our small dogs get it too and I've lost a couple beagles and had another get ripped up real bad but those coyotes kill big dogs plenty times.

[BULLBLASTER]

So if you are out in the boonies with your lab and your dog comes barreling out if the brush with a songdog nipping at her heels and you just happen to be carrying a 223 with you and you just happen to smoke the sucker, is that coyote hunting with dogs?

You'd have to appear to be hunting coyote to get a ticket. If you are just going for a walk and you have a gun then you are defending your dog from a wild animal.

But that would never happen with a lab.

Coyotes go after toy dogs and cats. In suburban areas they figure out how to act like a friendly domestic dog and pets go right up to them.

I've seen plenty full sized dogs baited by coyotes. Co-worker had his husky ripped to death by a pair. My parents black and tan coonhound goes about 83# and had his flanks opened up and I saw that happen. Sure our small dogs get it too and I've lost a couple beagles and had another get ripped up real bad but those coyotes kill big dogs plenty times.

My 80 lb shorthair was wel on his way to running Right to the middle of 5-6 yotes  one day. They were hiding and one was drawing my dog. I saw it happening and zapped the crap out of my dog with his e collar before he got out there and for him turned around.

[konradcountry]

So if you are out in the boonies with your lab and your dog comes barreling out if the brush with a songdog nipping at her heels and you just happen to be carrying a 223 with you and you just happen to smoke the sucker, is that coyote hunting with dogs?

You'd have to appear to be hunting coyote to get a ticket. If you are just going for a walk and you have a gun then you are defending your dog from a wild animal.

But that would never happen with a lab.

Coyotes go after toy dogs and cats. In suburban areas they figure out how to act like a friendly domestic dog and pets go right up to them.

I've seen plenty full sized dogs baited by coyotes. Co-worker had his husky ripped to death by a pair. My parents black and tan coonhound goes about 83# and had his flanks opened up and I saw that happen. Sure our small dogs get it too and I've lost a couple beagles and had another get ripped up real bad but those coyotes kill big dogs plenty times.

I've never seen it and I lived in Pierce for a while which is coyote country thanks to the shooting restrictions. All the "lost pet" signs were for cats and small dogs. Our neighborhood lab would chase them for fun.

Here is a Boston Terrier chasing one off

Not saying that husky wasn't killed but that isn't the norm.

They really aren't built to kill something as large as a lab. They are pretty lousy deer killers unless it is a fawn or sick adult.

[Bullkllr]

This buck doesn't look real sick...

... don't look real healthy at the end, though.

Hungry coyotes could kill most any dog, given the situation, imo.

[lamrith]

Only reason that terrier was not dinner was that there was only one coyote and the terrier did not run.  Yotes can and do take larger dogs.  They of course go for smaller prey more often.