Any Game Wardens use this website?

[Parasite]

Yes, but I think the OP is asking about WDFW LE as a resource on here, specifically.

You are correct. Plus I've used said resource in the past to have loopholes in the game laws closed.

I sure opened a can of worms 

[jagermiester]

Any game wardens use this website? Back on a forum I used to use in the Midwest, we were lucky enough to have a game warden that would frequent the forum and there was a specific forum to pose legal questions. Does anyone know if there are any game wardens on this site?

Seems like a simple question to me??

Bring in the crazy train 

[jdb]

Since when did I say he should be on here giving legal opinions without being a member of the bar?  There's legit questions asked by many of members on here weekly.  How doe's having a Warden on here to answer questions even possibly sound like a bad idea?

Give a hypothetical question or two

Hypothetical:

1) I'm driving down a dirt USFS road grouse hunting.  A blue grouse runs off the side of the road.  I park my rig, get out, load my shotgun with a single shell, walk down the road and shoot the grouse as it attempts to fly away.  Is this legal?

2) I'm hunting whitetail in the NE during the late general season.  I'm using my OnX maps very extensively because I'm in a serious state/private checkerboarded area.  I find a 175" giant whitey standing on the edge of the timber on public land.  Problem is, I won't have time to walk the 20 minutes around to attempt to harvest him.  I'm standing on state ground with a small strip of private field in between me and the buck.  Can I legally shoot from where I'm standing.  Obviously the neighboring property and house of local guide Dale Denney is going to hear the shot and be well aware that I've just harvest a local legend.  All eyes will be on me...…....Legal?

Again, all hypothetical

I'm an advocate of looking up the answers myself in the WACs and RCWs. No offense intended but not every enforcement officer will know every regulations or even interpret them correctly.

Question 1: it depends. Read RCW 77.15.460. Did you negligently discharge the firearm? Not every instance of shooting from a road is illegal.

https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=77.15.460

(2) A person is guilty of unlawful use of a loaded firearm if:

(a) The person negligently discharges a firearm from, across, or along the maintained portion of a public highway;

Question 2 is not addressed in any specific regulation. A case could be made that your bullet trespassed on private property but I've never heard of that charge being made. It's somewhat akin to the legal debate over corner crossing.

i agree with bob 100%. It best to know and understand the law yourself.

[MtnMuley]

If I pull over the next Warden I see and ask him both exact questions, you're telling me he won't answer?  How is that any different?  I've never met a Warden (and I know most every one within 100 miles), that wouldn't answer either of those questions if they had the answer or knew.  What's the difference if I'm fishing with a friend and I've caught 4 trout in a lake where I know 5 is the limit and a Warden approaches me and I ask him if the limit is one more for me?  He's not going to answer because he's not a member of the bar?   Let's get real

Let’s get real real here.

You should know that there is a difference between a verbal statement and the preserved written word entombed forever on the www.

  which is why the the only leo that speaks on these issues is careful how he types things, remains anonymous, and cites RCWs and speaks of personal or others experience... Usually with a caveat!

And he keeps it real

LMAO No way am I going to waste my time arguing on the almighty www with a guy like you. My point has been made. Sad it's come down to this with society these days.

[MtnMuley]

Since when did I say he should be on here giving legal opinions without being a member of the bar?  There's legit questions asked by many of members on here weekly.  How doe's having a Warden on here to answer questions even possibly sound like a bad idea?

Give a hypothetical question or two

Hypothetical:

1) I'm driving down a dirt USFS road grouse hunting.  A blue grouse runs off the side of the road.  I park my rig, get out, load my shotgun with a single shell, walk down the road and shoot the grouse as it attempts to fly away.  Is this legal?

2) I'm hunting whitetail in the NE during the late general season.  I'm using my OnX maps very extensively because I'm in a serious state/private checkerboarded area.  I find a 175" giant whitey standing on the edge of the timber on public land.  Problem is, I won't have time to walk the 20 minutes around to attempt to harvest him.  I'm standing on state ground with a small strip of private field in between me and the buck.  Can I legally shoot from where I'm standing.  Obviously the neighboring property and house of local guide Dale Denney is going to hear the shot and be well aware that I've just harvest a local legend.  All eyes will be on me...…....Legal?

Again, all hypothetical

I'm an advocate of looking up the answers myself in the WACs and RCWs. No offense intended but not every enforcement officer will know every regulations or even interpret them correctly.

Question 1: it depends. Read RCW 77.15.460. Did you negligently discharge the firearm? Not every instance of shooting from a road is illegal.

https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=77.15.460

(2) A person is guilty of unlawful use of a loaded firearm if:

(a) The person negligently discharges a firearm from, across, or along the maintained portion of a public highway;

Question 2 is not addressed in any specific regulation. A case could be made that your bullet trespassed on private property but I've never heard of that charge being made. It's somewhat akin to the legal debate over corner crossing.

i agree with bob 100%. It best to know and understand the law yourself.

These were hypothetical questions I made up in reply to knockers request. I wasn't looking for an answer, but more so that I believed a "Warden" could give us an honest answer if it were lawful or not on this forum. Apparently not per knocker, because any "Warden" isn't a member of the bar. I've always took a man in uniform for his word, whether written or verbal.

[pianoman9701]

And the only LEO here has steadfastly refused to confirm for whom he works.

I think there are many more than one.

[Knocker of rocks]

LMAO No way am I going to waste my time arguing on the almighty www with a guy like you. My point has been made. Sad it's come down to this with society these days.

ROTFLMAOAWAIYA

It's not an issue of you arguing with me, given that everybody has told you the same thing as me regarding why LE does not usually answer specific enforcement and legal questions on the www, it is us arguing with a guy like you.

These were hypothetical questions I made up in reply to knockers request. I wasn't looking for an answer, but more so that I believed a "Warden" could give us an honest answer if it were lawful or not on this forum. Apparently not per knocker, because any "Warden" isn't a member of the bar. I've always took a man in uniform for his word, whether written or verbal.

Myself and several posters indicated how and why these questions are improper for a non-lawyer to answer.  The answer requires a legal opinion.   So blame me all you want, but if you read the thread you were told the exact same thing by many and in fact several agencies nationwide said the exact same thing when they reduced their forum footprints.

Just keeping it real.

[Knocker of rocks]

And the only LEO here has steadfastly refused to confirm for whom he works.

I think there are many more than one.

Yes, you are right.   But only one seems to share his opinion on specific outdoor issues.   

[bobcat]

What's the problem- I gave you the answers.   

[jdb]

Since when did I say he should be on here giving legal opinions without being a member of the bar?  There's legit questions asked by many of members on here weekly.  How doe's having a Warden on here to answer questions even possibly sound like a bad idea?

Give a hypothetical question or two

Hypothetical:

1) I'm driving down a dirt USFS road grouse hunting.  A blue grouse runs off the side of the road.  I park my rig, get out, load my shotgun with a single shell, walk down the road and shoot the grouse as it attempts to fly away.  Is this legal?

2) I'm hunting whitetail in the NE during the late general season.  I'm using my OnX maps very extensively because I'm in a serious state/private checkerboarded area.  I find a 175" giant whitey standing on the edge of the timber on public land.  Problem is, I won't have time to walk the 20 minutes around to attempt to harvest him.  I'm standing on state ground with a small strip of private field in between me and the buck.  Can I legally shoot from where I'm standing.  Obviously the neighboring property and house of local guide Dale Denney is going to hear the shot and be well aware that I've just harvest a local legend.  All eyes will be on me...…....Legal?

Again, all hypothetical

I'm an advocate of looking up the answers myself in the WACs and RCWs. No offense intended but not every enforcement officer will know every regulations or even interpret them correctly.

Question 1: it depends. Read RCW 77.15.460. Did you negligently discharge the firearm? Not every instance of shooting from a road is illegal.

https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=77.15.460

(2) A person is guilty of unlawful use of a loaded firearm if:

(a) The person negligently discharges a firearm from, across, or along the maintained portion of a public highway;

Question 2 is not addressed in any specific regulation. A case could be made that your bullet trespassed on private property but I've never heard of that charge being made. It's somewhat akin to the legal debate over corner crossing.

i agree with bob 100%. It best to know and understand the law yourself.

These were hypothetical questions I made up in reply to knockers request. I wasn't looking for an answer, but more so that I believed a "Warden" could give us an honest answer if it were lawful or not on this forum. Apparently not per knocker, because any "Warden" isn't a member of the bar. I've always took a man in uniform for his word, whether written or verbal.

its been my experience that they often to know the letter of the law but will act as a f they do. ymmv.

[grundy53]

LMAO No way am I going to waste my time arguing on the almighty www with a guy like you. My point has been made. Sad it's come down to this with society these days.

ROTFLMAOAWAIYA

It's not an issue of you arguing with me, given that everybody has told you the same thing as me regarding why LE does not usually answer specific enforcement and legal questions on the www, it is us arguing with a guy like you.

These were hypothetical questions I made up in reply to knockers request. I wasn't looking for an answer, but more so that I believed a "Warden" could give us an honest answer if it were lawful or not on this forum. Apparently not per knocker, because any "Warden" isn't a member of the bar. I've always took a man in uniform for his word, whether written or verbal.

Myself and several posters indicated how and why these questions are improper for a non-lawyer to answer.  The answer requires a legal opinion.   So blame me all you want, but if you read the thread you were told the exact same thing by many and in fact several agencies nationwide said the exact same thing when they reduced their forum footprints.

Just keeping it real.

Yet it was answered...

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[Knocker of rocks]

Yet it was answered...

The hypotheticals were answered by regular posters.   BT did not actually give an answer, but supplied the applicable USC.

The bigger question was why doesn't LE participate in forums answering questions about specific occurances and conditions.   LE doesn't want to participate because their answers could be construed as officially condoned legal advice.   This is a nation wide issue and one where MM has difficulty accepting.

[pianoman9701]

Another reason could be that they're tired of being attacked when they do explain something. I've seen many instances when BT has been given a ration just because he responded with facts to a legal inquiry regarding regs and laws.

[Knocker of rocks]

Another reason could be that they're tired of being attacked when they do explain something. I've seen many instances when BT has been given a ration just because he responded with facts to a legal inquiry regarding regs and laws.

Or at a lower aggravation level, just asked to rationalize the laws (RCW and WAC lumped together), which more than likely were written at the legislative, commision or upper managment level.   

[bigtex]

Another reason could be that they're tired of being attacked when they do explain something. I've seen many instances when BT has been given a ration just because he responded with facts to a legal inquiry regarding regs and laws.

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