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3 point or better
« on: March 26, 2009, 06:06:21 PM »
what do you guy's think if you vote no please explain why

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Re: 3 point or better
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2009, 06:11:17 PM »
yes that would be a good thing let the babys grow up
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Re: 3 point or better
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2009, 06:12:17 PM »
I voted no because from what I understand, it's not healthy for the herd to have too high of a buck to doe ratio. I'm no biologist, but that seems to be the case with the management area's I've read about.
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Re: 3 point or better
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2009, 06:12:45 PM »
3 point or better for all deer during general season and 2 point or better for mule deer by limited permit only.

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Re: 3 point or better
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2009, 06:13:49 PM »
seems to have worked pretty well in much of the state.
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Re: 3 point or better
« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2009, 06:14:49 PM »
i think this is a real bad idea. i hunt deer on the west side but my buddy owns property on the east side. he is sure that the three point or better rule has weekend the jean pool. he's been seeing the same two points for years and he says there getting more the norm for these deers not having the antler growth past 2 points. tho there legal over here i will pass on two pointers unless im at the very end of the season
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Re: 3 point or better
« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2009, 06:17:25 PM »
i think in some area's it is a good thing. like the vail tree farm its spike or better out there and i think it's hurt the deer population as far as big bucks go. i killed my biggest blacktail buck out there about six years ago. and now i hardly see anything over a forked horn. go figure :dunno: :dunno: :dunno:

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Re: 3 point or better
« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2009, 06:23:32 PM »
hey heading to hancock this sunday who wants to meet up and do some scouting and shed hunting with a couple of my friends. be cool to meet some people off this board who have the permits we can meet in the bridge gate at the turn out on your left when you go throu the gate. the first one you come to.

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Re: 3 point or better
« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2009, 06:27:57 PM »
I say no......here is why:  check out this thread
in particular pay attention to what muleyguy had to say.  I wish he was still visiting this site......I guess he gave up. :dunno:  ......he was very knowledgeable


I have provided  extensive, biological documentation, from at least 5 separate sources that say basically three things about 3 pt and 4pt or better rules, here are the conclusions:

1.  They work as a short term stimulus to better buck to doe ratio's
2.  The buck to doe ratio stagnates at best over time;  goes down at worst
3.  The number of "mature" animals, over time, is decreased because it focus' the hunting pressure on mature animals instead of over the entire herd.

that is what the rules do;  that has been the experience and what the research has shown, biologists all over the West.  It isn't my opinion and has nothing to with any agenda.   All these different studies and biologist could be wrong;  I doubt it though.

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Re: 3 point or better
« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2009, 06:29:18 PM »
I voted no because there are some units that produce some BIG two points and that is as big as they get. For management purposes in some units a two point or better is a good idea.
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Re: 3 point or better
« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2009, 06:30:12 PM »
what time you going in? im going Saturday but i might be able to shoot up Sunday also. im ridiculously punctual so if im not there when you tell me i aint coming  
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Re: 3 point or better
« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2009, 06:30:40 PM »
I vote no because sometimes does need thinned out and I agree with Gobble Gobble.

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Re: 3 point or better
« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2009, 06:33:46 PM »
No on the 3pt.
I would love 2 point or better on the westside but allowing spikes for youth and disabled.




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Re: 3 point or better
« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2009, 06:37:14 PM »
I agree with quote below. I think it pretty much sums it up....it's good for short periods but needs to be adjusted periodically to ensure that you have a proper buck/doe ratio and a proper number of mature bucks. Adjusting the rule every few years would also allow folks to weed out the big forkies that will never grow additional points and will keep them from passing their genes throughout the herd(s).



I say no......here is why:  check out http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,19549.msg228713.html#quickreplythread
in particular pay attention to what muleyguy had to say.  I wish he was still visiting this site......I guess he gave up. :dunno:  ......he was very knowledgeable

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I have provided  extensive, biological documentation, from at least 5 separate sources that say basically three things about 3 pt and 4pt or better rules, here are the conclusions:

1.  They work as a short term stimulus to better buck to doe ratio's
2.  The buck to doe ratio stagnates at best over time;  goes down at worst
3.  The number of "mature" animals, over time, is decreased because it focus' the hunting pressure on mature animals instead of over the entire herd.

that is what the rules do;  that has been the experience and what the research has shown, biologists all over the West.  It isn't my opinion and has nothing to with any agenda.   All these different studies and biologist could be wrong;  I doubt it though.


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Re: 3 point or better
« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2009, 06:37:51 PM »
 :yeah:

 


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