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Re: Looks like Benchmade knife company is anti-gun
« Reply #105 on: February 22, 2019, 02:49:05 AM »
Ya I don't have a problem with destroying guns except in the case of civil forfeiture, which SCUTOS just ruled against so no more issues there!


They didn't rule against civil forfeiture. Just that which is "excessive."
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Re: Looks like Benchmade knife company is anti-gun
« Reply #106 on: February 22, 2019, 03:49:35 AM »

A business is a business and an individual in an individual. They're two separate entities.

That used to be the case.  It is less black and white now that everything has to be politicized by the left, from banking, to food, to shaving.  There's no denying that. 

If Dale decided to donate to Inslee, I'd have to consider the wisdom and return on his "investment," while hwing to have him consider the implications.  Kind of different than putting money in someone's pockets for a product, have that someone work against you, politically, and having no OTHER say about it than taking your money elsewhere.

Otherwise, if the donation was to, say, Everytown or some other explicitly gun grabbing PAC, then the case would be more straightforward and eye-opening.  As it stands, with far more expenditures related to simple industry lobbying, and with 2018 expenditures to candidates being a mixed bag (NRA-A or 60ish%; GOA-60/17)*, it is less clear.  Getting into bed with rent-seeking politicians is like that.  This is nothing new.

https://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?id=D000047693


Otherwise, otherwise, the left has pushed politics into everything.  The right, by necessity, has been forced to make political considerations in typically and historically apolitical aspects of life.  The lesson here is that business leaders and owners need to be intimately familiar with their customers, and in modern American business life that includes their customers' political preferences, before making political moves that might reflect poorly on their company from their customer base's perspectives. Although, "get woke, go broke" is a pithy slogan that has dubious financial forecast value, it represents an increasing awareness on the right of the problems of political ignorance and inaction.

Otherwise, otherwise, otherwise, you could always shield your donations with layers of shell organizations to hide disclosure of your political motives, as is tradition.

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I'll still stick with initial my wait and see, for now, and hope that Benchmade has learned a valuable business and political lesson.

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Re: Looks like Benchmade knife company is anti-gun
« Reply #107 on: February 27, 2019, 10:51:23 PM »
This clears up nothing...and leaves the PR guy to handle it.

https://guntalk.libsyn.com/benchmade-talks-about-destroying-guns-donations-to-anti-gunners-oregons-strict-gun-control-bill-gun-talk-radio-22419-a

Benchmade Talks About Destroying Guns, Donations to Anti-Gunners; Oregon's Strict Gun Control Bill: Gun Talk Radio| 2.24.19 A

Tom talks with Matt Elliott, Director of Marketing for Benchmade Knives, about the company destroying firearms for the Oregon City Police Department and donating to anti-gun Democrats. Plus, Oregon Firearms Federation's Kevin Starrett about the latest gun control proposals in OR, including a max purchase of 20 rounds of ammo a month, and special guest Gun Talk's Kevin Jarnagin.
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Re: Looks like Benchmade knife company is anti-gun
« Reply #108 on: March 02, 2019, 07:50:17 PM »
I guess I am more pragmatic about the issue.  Police regularly destroy guns used in crimes after it is all settled.  Selling those guns is not within the law and not a good idea - I wouldn't want to own a gun with a serial number tied to a crime and find out that there were other crimes with the same gun that I could potentially be tied to.

So, the police has to destroy them.  Benchmade could do it for free, or the police could pay someone else.  If they pay someone else either my taxes need to go up to cover that or they take money from other areas like hiring another officer.

Every police station in the country does this and has done it forever.  Nobody has cared before social media made it easy to get all lathered up and pound on keyboards.

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Re: Looks like Benchmade knife company is anti-gun
« Reply #109 on: March 02, 2019, 07:54:27 PM »




Here are some more companies that have supported democrats to add to the boycott list:

Smith & Wesson
Remington Arms
National Shooting Sports Foundation
Safari Club International
Cabelas
Walmart
Safeway
Amazon
Costco
Chevrolet
Dodge
Ford
Every other vehicle manufacturer
Every major gas station and petroleum producer
International dairy foods association

Do all of these companies donate 100% of their political donations to Dem PACs? I know there are quite a few gun-friendly Dems, mostly in Red states. So I can understand some across the aisle donations. The timber companies do that, too. But donating 100% to Dem PACs, where the money is usually distributed among many politicians' campaigns is a different story. A supposedly hunter-friendly/2A-friendly company who donates nothing to the right side of the aisle may not be as 2A friendly as their statement suggests.

Please research open secrets.  Benchmade DID NOT donate.  An employee of Benchmade did, an individual or the immediate family member of an individual.  Could have been the president, could have been the janitor's wife, could have been a guy they fired.  We don't know who it was.

To say Benchmade 100% supports "Dem PACs" is a lie.  Benchmade didn't support any Dems according to open secrets and Benchmade employees directly contributed to two democrats, not PACs.

Actually it was the owners. So I'm pretty sure they speak for Benchmark.

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No, the owner's speak for themselves; if Benchmark as a company made the donations they'd be speaking for Benchmark. It's no different than your signature line which states that your opinions don't necessarily represent the opinions of the HuntWa forum.

Except they own the company. I don't own this site. I can't speak for the site. They most definitely speak for their company. It's their company. Do you think their beliefs change when they get to work?
Those donations they made were with the profits of their company.

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My personal beliefs don't always reflect how I've run any of my companies and the majority of business owners I've worked with are the same way. Work is work and my personal views and opinions are mine, not my company's.

The money that the owners donated wasn't profits from the business, it was money they earned by going to work. What someone does with their paycheck represents the actions of the that individual, not the company that issues their paycheck. :twocents:

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