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Re: 10mm is the best mm
« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2019, 04:54:09 PM »
I use the sig and Underwood’s

First time out were blazers to get on paper
Cheaper
How does the Underwood compare to the Sig ? Mainly looking for a hunting round

No idea sorry
Never hunted with it

Im going with the JHP 200 grain XTP Underwood’s
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Re: 10mm is the best mm
« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2019, 05:06:58 PM »
I bought 500 rds of new never reloaded double tap from ammovalley for a great price, loose ammo in a plastic ammo box.  That's my practice ammo and I'm saving the brass for reloading.   



my carry ammo is 220gr coated hard cast from underwood, I also shoot some of it to make sure the gun runs good on it.   I found a 22# recoil spring to be optimal and I can go from double tap to 220gr hardcast without issue.   The double tap empties land pretty close to my feet but runs fine, the 220gr hard cast lands further away but isn't going so far that I need a new spring  6-8 feet away and the slide isn't slamming the rear hard creating more muzzle flip. 

I had a 20lb spring, too light.   24lb spring was too heavy for the double tap and almost too heavy for the 220gr also.   

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Re: 10mm is the best mm
« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2019, 06:20:19 PM »
I will probably order up some Underwood 180 XTP and 200 gr XTP to see what my gun likes.
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Re: 10mm is the best mm
« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2019, 07:24:08 PM »
Has anyone tried the XDm? Thinking real hard about this one, or the SR1911. The common XDMs (9 & 40) have a great track record for reliability, but a lot of 1911s do have issues.

I’ve owned the G20 & G29, and I’m not a fan. Liked the EAA Witness the best, but it was too heavy.

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Re: 10mm is the best mm
« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2019, 07:44:15 PM »
I will probably order up some Underwood 180 XTP and 200 gr XTP to see what my gun likes.

make the gun like the ammo that you want to shoot

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Re: 10mm is the best mm
« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2019, 07:45:28 PM »
Has anyone tried the XDm? Thinking real hard about this one, or the SR1911. The common XDMs (9 & 40) have a great track record for reliability, but a lot of 1911s do have issues.

I’ve owned the G20 & G29, and I’m not a fan. Liked the EAA Witness the best, but it was too heavy.

I ran an XDm 40 and liked it, didn't buy one but I liked it enough I would if I needed another 40

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Re: 10mm is the best mm
« Reply #21 on: March 14, 2019, 06:24:08 AM »
I will probably order up some Underwood 180 XTP and 200 gr XTP to see what my gun likes.

make the gun like the ammo that you want to shoot
Hows that done?
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Re: 10mm is the best mm
« Reply #22 on: March 14, 2019, 09:38:46 AM »
My suggestion is try a 22# recoil spring from ISMI
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/2381112233/ismi-recoil-spring-glock-17-20-21-24-31-34-35-chrome-silicon   (select 22 lbs on the drop down when ordering)

and upgrade the guide rod to a captive stainless steel guide rod. You could also go non-captive, but I prefer captive so the spring can't launch itself across the room.  I'll deal with the small allen key head. Now that I have the correct weight spring I won't take the spring off the guide rod hardly ever.   
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/119858/ismi-captured-guide-rod-glock-20-21-steel

there is some discussion on barrel support for the brass and the OEM not having enough support on super hot loads like the UW200 and UW220 hard cast, but it depends on the year your barrel was made there may or may not be any gains in support or accuracy with aftermarket.  I'll take apart my G20 and take a pic of the LW vs OEM barrel,  the LWD barrel I bought see if the difference can be seen.  I haven't seen any smiles on my brass after shooting it.  After doing some reading it appears LWD barrels have changed so you couldn't get one like I have anymore anyways.  Not sure why LWD changed their barrels  :dunno:   

After shooting the heavy stuff take a good look at your brass and see if there's smile dimples on the back end indicating you could use more support.






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Re: 10mm is the best mm
« Reply #23 on: March 14, 2019, 10:33:57 AM »
It's hard to discern the difference between the two for case support with the naked eye, but looking at the pics on a big screen I see the stock Glock (black barrel) might be rounded more at the top where the LWD barrel (silver) is squared up.

Unless you plan to reload maybe try running the stock barrel and look for rounded dimples on the end of the ejected brass.

Glock supposedly made changes to the barrels so it depends on the year of the gun, I dunno  :dunno:

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Re: 10mm is the best mm
« Reply #24 on: March 14, 2019, 11:15:56 AM »
Appreciate that KFHunter. The barrel is a supported match grade made by Fusion.  Recoil spring is a 22lb Wilson Combat
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Re: 10mm is the best mm
« Reply #25 on: March 15, 2019, 09:56:18 AM »
I would also get some softer recoiling JHPs if you plan on doing any urban carry. Gets you back on target faster and fewer concerns with over-penetration.

The softer stuff is also a lot easier to shoot one handed. Hot 10mm is good for bear protection but I wouldn't carry it in a crowded area.

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Re: 10mm is the best mm
« Reply #26 on: March 15, 2019, 11:12:29 AM »
I would also get some softer recoiling JHPs if you plan on doing any urban carry. Gets you back on target faster and fewer concerns with over-penetration.

The softer stuff is also a lot easier to shoot one handed. Hot 10mm is good for bear protection but I wouldn't carry it in a crowded area.
Not going to conceal carry a 6" 1911  :chuckle:. That's what my 4" and Shield is for  . The 10 is strictly range toy and hunting.
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Re: 10mm is the best mm
« Reply #27 on: March 15, 2019, 05:53:28 PM »
I would also get some softer recoiling JHPs if you plan on doing any urban carry. Gets you back on target faster and fewer concerns with over-penetration.

The softer stuff is also a lot easier to shoot one handed. Hot 10mm is good for bear protection but I wouldn't carry it in a crowded area.
Not going to conceal carry a 6" 1911  :chuckle:. That's what my 4" and Shield is for  . The 10 is strictly range toy and hunting.

Oh I see you are thinking body holster. Try a camera bag with two extended magazines  ;)

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Re: 10mm is the best mm
« Reply #28 on: March 15, 2019, 06:30:46 PM »
I have 3 holsters for the 10

blackhawk    :puke: barf

safariiland ALS  with either low ride or drop leg, with single strap  :tup:   
I prefer the lowride + leg strap, so there's no flopping around on a sweaty leg with the strap belt loop it came with.
The biggest negative is it grabs brush and is loud in the brush as you walk along.  I was going to fabric coat it to soften it up, but it'll still grab everything. 

and now I'm rocking a  Kenai Chest Holster which I haven't actually used or practiced with yet, but I'll start up soon running drills out of the chest holster.
I need to make it work with a bino pouch and backpack; so we'll see where I land with that.


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Re: 10mm is the best mm ( RMR added )
« Reply #29 on: August 16, 2019, 04:29:17 PM »
Just got it back from Fusion again , had themnmill ot for an RMR  . Got the Trijicon RM06 mounted up .
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