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Offline Jonathan_S

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Re: Sportsman Strike
« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2019, 10:38:36 AM »
Many people I have talked to in the last 4 Years,think the time has come.With the populations of Elk ,Deer ,Salmon ,and Steelhead on a massive decline WHY BUY the oppertunity.This states product is broken and with increased fees,and no conservation of these species ,when are we at the BREAKING POINT.We want to hear feedback from you ,and your opionions.Curently we are working on a public meeting date,and will be inviting WDFW and our state reps and business owners.Your voice will be heard loud and clear in this setting.The power of the pocketbook is all we have,as sportsman in this state.


Is the "WE" SFW?
Kindly do not attempt to cloud the issue with too many facts.

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Re: Sportsman Strike
« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2019, 10:39:35 AM »
There are a lot of things that WDFW could do differently to increase game opportunities but not buying a hunting license is like cutting your own d*ck off because you are mad at your girlfriend.

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Re: Sportsman Strike
« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2019, 10:50:59 AM »
There are a lot of things that WDFW could do differently to increase game opportunities but not buying a hunting license is like cutting your own d*ck off because you are mad at your girlfriend.
  :yeah: there's no reason to have robust ungulate herds if nobody is hunting them and buying tags and licenses. Without monetary value there's no point in investing in their viability.
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Re: Sportsman Strike
« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2019, 11:06:39 AM »
If you really wanted to make a difference wouldn't spending a few weekends in spring and summer doing some habitat improvement projects, hitting the woods hard to get a bear and heading out in Mass to shoot a cougar before the end of December get your better more immediate results without having to hope a government agency you don't have confidence in will do what you want?

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Re: Sportsman Strike
« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2019, 11:14:38 AM »
If you really wanted to make a difference wouldn't spending a few weekends in spring and summer doing some habitat improvement projects, hitting the woods hard to get a bear and heading out in Mass to shoot a cougar before the end of December get your better more immediate results without having to hope a government agency you don't have confidence in will do what you want?
Lol, do you know the success rate on killing a cougar without hounds?

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Re: Sportsman Strike
« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2019, 11:17:15 AM »
If you really wanted to make a difference wouldn't spending a few weekends in spring and summer doing some habitat improvement projects, hitting the woods hard to get a bear and heading out in Mass to shoot a cougar before the end of December get your better more immediate results without having to hope a government agency you don't have confidence in will do what you want?
Lol, do you know the success rate on killing a cougar without hounds?
do you know the success rate if you don't go out at all?  :chuckle:
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Re: Sportsman Strike
« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2019, 11:18:25 AM »
If you really wanted to make a difference wouldn't spending a few weekends in spring and summer doing some habitat improvement projects, hitting the woods hard to get a bear and heading out in Mass to shoot a cougar before the end of December get your better more immediate results without having to hope a government agency you don't have confidence in will do what you want?
Lol, do you know the success rate on killing a cougar without hounds?
do you know the success rate if you don't go out at all?  :chuckle:
I've hunted in WA for 27 years, deer and elk.  I've seen 1 cougar in my life.

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Re: Sportsman Strike
« Reply #22 on: March 11, 2019, 11:19:44 AM »
There are a lot of things that WDFW could do differently to increase game opportunities but not buying a hunting license is like cutting your own d*ck off because you are mad at your girlfriend.
I guess you can keep paying her to cheat on you!  :bash:

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Re: Sportsman Strike
« Reply #23 on: March 11, 2019, 11:37:17 AM »
I considered relinquishing my Master Hunter card a few years ago in protest about hoof disease and other mismanaged departments and/or programs. The very good advice I received was to keep it and have more influence from the inside. I took it. I'm afraid that boycotting by not buying licenses shows that you no longer have any skin in the game. As hunters, we pay more than anyone else for our wildlife. That should carry more weight..
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Re: Sportsman Strike
« Reply #24 on: March 11, 2019, 11:57:21 AM »
I agree with Karl and P-Man.  Get involved with your none profits that a lot of you signature page.  They have some influence with state level and also at the federal level.  I understand that the department has some issues that is for sure but tell me what state that doesn't.  Yup prices are going up but prices are going up for everything.  We can't buy gas for $1.00 anymore or a loaf of bread for .50.  I believe and I sure someone can correct me but up to just recently the state hadn't increased prices for 5 years or more.  I think our biggest tool to use to influence them is to be more involved and be more vocal about what the state does, not buying a license really gives you no voice.  Just my  :twocents:


On to what some of you have also been talking about.  I tend to research prices in different states. Tell me where you cost savings are in out of state hunting.  on average you are paying for $600 plus of non-resident license and tag.  Some places you have to draw for.  Also accounting for gas, food and lodging I would imagine your paying $1500 plus for a trip for one animal.  Plus getting time off from work.  I know you can't put a price on memories and being out in the woods but there is a limit for some. I would rather pay my resident tags here to have a chance to hunt multiple animals without having to take large amounts of time off. 
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Re: Sportsman Strike
« Reply #25 on: March 11, 2019, 11:58:00 AM »
I considered relinquishing my Master Hunter card a few years ago in protest about hoof disease and other mismanaged departments and/or programs. The very good advice I received was to keep it and have more influence from the inside. I took it. I'm afraid that boycotting by not buying licenses shows that you no longer have any skin in the game. As hunters, we pay more than anyone else for our wildlife. That should carry more weight..
I agree, it "should", but it's not working, and hasn't for some years now.  You can't say it wasn't from poor hunter/fishermen #'s. 

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Re: Sportsman Strike
« Reply #26 on: March 11, 2019, 12:00:57 PM »
Contact your legislators and tell them to oppose the requested fee increases.  WDFW pays attention when their budget requests get denied.  It happened last year and it can happen again.  If they want to make sportsmen pay, tell legislators to make it clear they need to provide a product. 

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Re: Sportsman Strike
« Reply #27 on: March 11, 2019, 12:04:59 PM »
I boycotted buying ANY Weyerhauser access passes in hopes others would as well....and hoped that Weyerhauser would change their policies. Not even close. The passes continue to sell out as fast as they're posted and I hear guys say there are more critters then ever before. The folks that stand their ground for what they believe only make things better for those who don't.
For 1 reason or another, people will continue to buy licenses and only a few will stand firm and go without.... and WDFW will laugh all the way to the ATM machine. My  :twocents: :twocents: :twocents:
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Re: Sportsman Strike
« Reply #28 on: March 11, 2019, 12:21:12 PM »
If you really wanted to make a difference wouldn't spending a few weekends in spring and summer doing some habitat improvement projects, hitting the woods hard to get a bear and heading out in Mass to shoot a cougar before the end of December get your better more immediate results without having to hope a government agency you don't have confidence in will do what you want?
Lol, do you know the success rate on killing a cougar without hounds?

Better than the odds wdfw will change the law on hound hunting.

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Re: Sportsman Strike
« Reply #29 on: March 11, 2019, 12:23:06 PM »
I boycotted buying ANY Weyerhauser access passes in hopes others would as well....and that Weyerhauser would change their policies. Not even close. The passes continue to sell out as fast as they're posted and I hear guys say there are more critters then ever before. The folks that stand their ground for what they believe only make things better for those who don't.
For 1 reason or another, people will continue to buy licenses and only a few will stand firm and go without.... and WDFW will laugh all the way to the ATM machine. My  :twocents: :twocents: :twocents:
I agree 100% and that's why sportsmen will lose in the end.  At least my kids and grand kids will have pretty wolves to look at.

 


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