For the archives since I can't delete.
Met with Pat for an hour on Saturday, the guy knows his business and dogs. Nice 2000 acres of training and hunting grounds. Hunting lodge on the property. 25 years of training in Monroe, he's trained 25,000 dogs of all breeds. Trains with game birds not pigeons. Mostly referral only but doubt he's strict about that.
He was really cool about helping me save some cash by doing certain parts of the training myself.