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Re: Permit quotas
« Reply #30 on: April 02, 2019, 08:57:05 AM »
did the whole herd fall 50% or just the bulls? if the cows didnt take a dive that should say something right there.....

It looks like just bulls have fallen according to this powerpoint slide so ya, that says something.  Lots of jerky being made

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Re: Permit quotas
« Reply #31 on: April 02, 2019, 09:54:33 AM »
Taking opportunity away from hunters to feed the predators is exactly whats up.
:yeah: :yeah: :yeah:    Wdfw loves their predators!
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Re: Permit quotas
« Reply #32 on: April 02, 2019, 11:02:11 AM »
did the whole herd fall 50% or just the bulls? if the cows didnt take a dive that should say something right there.....

It looks like just bulls have fallen according to this powerpoint slide so ya, that says something.  Lots of jerky being made

yep that right there tells the story...
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Re: Permit quotas
« Reply #33 on: April 02, 2019, 08:26:43 PM »
up the spring bear permits bring back hound hunting would be a great start!!! cut the tags dont do *censored* if you dont cut the preditors!!!!

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Re: Permit quotas
« Reply #34 on: April 02, 2019, 09:18:53 PM »
did the whole herd fall 50% or just the bulls? if the cows didnt take a dive that should say something right there.....

It looks like just bulls have fallen according to this powerpoint slide so ya, that says something.  Lots of jerky being made

yep that right there tells the story...

 :yeah: Couldnt agree more, but I'm sure many of the Yakama members will refute the data.
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Re: Permit quotas
« Reply #35 on: April 02, 2019, 10:49:43 PM »
I keep waiting for the reason there isn't a 1 elk limit in the Yakima's. If they are going to keep this, I'd prefer the WDFW recognize it can't run a herd just for the yakimas. Open the season to any elk, all of these units, all hunt methods september 1 to Dec 31.  When there's no elk, the Yakima's will be willing to talk to make a legal compromise. As long as there's a huge herd that serves only their needs, why will anything change?  Doubt it.  Before anyone argues I'm a xenophobe, please.... do explain the limits for Yakima members, season and limts, and I'll be all ears to their argument.

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Re: Permit quotas
« Reply #36 on: April 02, 2019, 11:40:18 PM »
There’s more than one tribe that hunts these elk. I am by no means sticking up for the yakama tribe, the only good they’ve done around here is cheap tobacco and extra funding for fish hatcheries. Which is also being pulled away from the general tax paying public. The game department will never increase the tag allotments after they take them away. So if I ever draw a quality bull tag in this state I may only get one or two more for the remainder of my hunting career.

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Re: Permit quotas
« Reply #37 on: April 03, 2019, 05:28:56 AM »
Their smoke and mirrors game of using the word objectives is for the birds. When they set their sights on a objective goal it's way less than the areas can sustain and remain healthy. It allows them to buffalo hunters into thinking the herd is doing well because they met their so called objectives. It's easy to say unit 334 has met its objective of 2 animals when it can sustain one hell of a lot more. Lets do a survey see how many animals are in that area and that will be our objective. :twocents:
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Re: Permit quotas
« Reply #38 on: April 03, 2019, 06:13:45 AM »
I keep waiting for the reason there isn't a 1 elk limit in the Yakima's. If they are going to keep this, I'd prefer the WDFW recognize it can't run a herd just for the yakimas. Open the season to any elk, all of these units, all hunt methods september 1 to Dec 31.  When there's no elk, the Yakima's will be willing to talk to make a legal compromise. As long as there's a huge herd that serves only their needs, why will anything change?  Doubt it.  Before anyone argues I'm a xenophobe, please.... do explain the limits for Yakima members, season and limts, and I'll be all ears to their argument.
Myself and bobcat have said this before and I agree it's the best idea to get the tribes to the bargaining table, if anyone else has a better idea lets here it! 
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Re: Permit quotas
« Reply #39 on: April 03, 2019, 07:35:11 AM »
Once I was pissed about this state and their game management, then I got over it...hell I almost understood why it was so difficult for them to NOT DECIMATE the Kahlotus deer herd.

The elk permit quotas...I'm not sure I can get over this. Like seriously I'm formulating a plan to get the hell out, burn points on lesser hunts or no hunts...I'm DEAD SERIOUS.
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Re: Permit quotas
« Reply #40 on: April 03, 2019, 08:02:31 AM »
Once I was pissed about this state and their game management, then I got over it...hell I almost understood why it was so difficult for them to NOT DECIMATE the Kahlotus deer herd.

The elk permit quotas...I'm not sure I can get over this. Like seriously I'm formulating a plan to get the hell out, burn points on lesser hunts or no hunts...I'm DEAD SERIOUS.

That's where I am.  I usually buy just about everything for hunting, all the licenses, all the permit draws, whole ball of wax.  I had decided to just put in for elk this year as there are good cow hunts as well as wanting to draw one quality tag sometime in my lifetime.

I'll wait for the GoHunt odds to be released, if they are as bad as I think they may be, I'm done will all big game hunting in state.

There is no way to get the message across to WDFW unless we are willing to cut their revenue from licensing. 

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Re: Permit quotas
« Reply #41 on: April 03, 2019, 08:10:54 AM »
Once I was pissed about this state and their game management, then I got over it...hell I almost understood why it was so difficult for them to NOT DECIMATE the Kahlotus deer herd.

The elk permit quotas...I'm not sure I can get over this. Like seriously I'm formulating a plan to get the hell out, burn points on lesser hunts or no hunts...I'm DEAD SERIOUS.
:yeah:I've been considering this since I had 10 points, now at 24 points, I really want out.  Once drawn, I'm done.
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Re: Permit quotas
« Reply #42 on: April 03, 2019, 08:20:39 AM »
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:yeah:I've been considering this since I had 10 points, now at 24 points, I really want out.  Once drawn, I'm done.
We all are saying this but the odds of us getting drawn keep going down.  So with worse odds every year wdfw is keeping us around.....

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Re: Permit quotas
« Reply #43 on: April 03, 2019, 08:35:14 AM »
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:yeah:I've been considering this since I had 10 points, now at 24 points, I really want out.  Once drawn, I'm done.
We all are saying this but the odds of us getting drawn keep going down.  So with worse odds every year wdfw is keeping us around.....
:yeah: WDFW can basically take it down to 1 permit; and since they have so many people caught in the game, those people will pay as long as there is even a remote chance.  It's like a perpetuity for WDFW.   :yike:
« Last Edit: April 03, 2019, 08:15:48 PM by JimmyHoffa »

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Re: Permit quotas
« Reply #44 on: April 03, 2019, 08:55:43 AM »
I'll wait for the GoHunt odds to be released, if they are as bad as I think they may be, I'm done will all big game hunting in state.
PM me the hunts and your point totals and I'll tell you...this is exciting...I hope you only have like 7 points...your odds are gonna be HORRIBLE!!!!
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