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Re: Suiattle trail questions
« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2019, 01:54:28 PM »
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So do they fall under black tail or Muley legal status for harvest? Haha


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Re: Suiattle trail questions
« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2019, 02:00:41 PM »
That area is commonly approached via Buck Creek during high hunt. Going up the Suiattle and thence to Image Lake gives access to that high country and the area of the Bath Lakes high route. The Buck Creek approach is marginally better for access towards Holden and the Pass No Pass and High Pass high country.

Getting into the Entiat drainage from either the Lyman, Phelps, Buck or Suiattle will be a test.

I hope that somewhat helps.

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Re: Suiattle trail questions
« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2019, 02:22:56 PM »
That area is commonly approached via Buck Creek during high hunt. Going up the Suiattle and thence to Image Lake gives access to that high country and the area of the Bath Lakes high route. The Buck Creek approach is marginally better for access towards Holden and the Pass No Pass and High Pass high country.

Getting into the Entiat drainage from either the Lyman, Phelps, Buck or Suiattle will be a test.

I hope that somewhat helps.

Yeah I can see why most people would come in from that way. I’m not most people hahaha I am willing to go far and deep and through the tough stuff. Plus I like the idea of having the opportunity of choosing or seeing two different species. So thank you for the help I really appreciate it.


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Re: Suiattle trail questions
« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2019, 03:20:44 PM »
:tup:

So do they fall under black tail or Muley legal status for harvest? Haha


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It depends on what side of the PCT they are standing when you kill them. West side - Blacktail, East side - Mule Deer.
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Re: Suiattle trail questions
« Reply #19 on: April 04, 2019, 03:22:45 PM »
I'm stubborn but not so stubborn I would access the Entiat from other than the Entiat trailhead.    Also I see you were asking about whitetail.  There are none there unless you carry a can of paint to paint tails.

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Re: Suiattle trail questions
« Reply #20 on: April 04, 2019, 03:23:47 PM »
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So do they fall under black tail or Muley legal status for harvest? Haha


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It depends on what side of the PCT they are standing when you kill them. West side - Blacktail, East side - Mule Deer.

Ok awesome. That’s good to know just in case.


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Re: Suiattle trail questions
« Reply #21 on: April 04, 2019, 03:25:02 PM »
I'm stubborn but not so stubborn I would access the Entiat from other than the Entiat trailhead.    Also I see you were asking about whitetail.  There are none there unless you carry a can of paint to paint tails.

It’s not stubbornness it’s just hunting more area and enjoying the scenery haha. Ok I wasn’t sure if they ever venture that high or not.


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Re: Suiattle trail questions
« Reply #22 on: April 04, 2019, 04:45:20 PM »
This is a link to Roland Tabor and the late Dwight Crowder’s classic “Routes and Rocks” now in the public domain as it was written by USGS  employees. Some of the routes no longer exist because they relied on sheep trails and the book was written 50 years ago when alpine herding was still common. But the info on high trails in the Bath Lake, High Pass, Massie, Phelps-Chiwawa divide and Leroy Creek routes is still very applicable.

https://geomaps.wr.usgs.gov/pacnw/pdf/routes_rocks_nomaps.pdf


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Re: Suiattle trail questions
« Reply #23 on: April 04, 2019, 07:08:09 PM »
This is a link to Roland Tabor and the late Dwight Crowder’s classic “Routes and Rocks” now in the public domain as it was written by USGS  employees. Some of the routes no longer exist because they relied on sheep trails and the book was written 50 years ago when alpine herding was still common. But the info on high trails in the Bath Lake, High Pass, Massie, Phelps-Chiwawa divide and Leroy Creek routes is still very applicable.

https://geomaps.wr.usgs.gov/pacnw/pdf/routes_rocks_nomaps.pdf

That’s *censored*! I will definitely be checking this out. Thank you very much.


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Re: Suiattle trail questions
« Reply #24 on: April 04, 2019, 07:23:34 PM »
This is a link to Roland Tabor and the late Dwight Crowder’s classic “Routes and Rocks” now in the public domain as it was written by USGS  employees. Some of the routes no longer exist because they relied on sheep trails and the book was written 50 years ago when alpine herding was still common. But the info on high trails in the Bath Lake, High Pass, Massie, Phelps-Chiwawa divide and Leroy Creek routes is still very applicable.

https://geomaps.wr.usgs.gov/pacnw/pdf/routes_rocks_nomaps.pdf

I've been on the sheep trail that goes from about Leroy Creek to over to the Chiwawa basin trail.

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Re: Suiattle trail questions
« Reply #25 on: April 04, 2019, 07:50:35 PM »
This is a link to Roland Tabor and the late Dwight Crowder’s classic “Routes and Rocks” now in the public domain as it was written by USGS  employees. Some of the routes no longer exist because they relied on sheep trails and the book was written 50 years ago when alpine herding was still common. But the info on high trails in the Bath Lake, High Pass, Massie, Phelps-Chiwawa divide and Leroy Creek routes is still very applicable.

https://geomaps.wr.usgs.gov/pacnw/pdf/routes_rocks_nomaps.pdf

I've been on the sheep trail that goes from about Leroy Creek to over to the Chiwawa basin trail.

Mind sharing your experience either here or on a PM? I’d love to hear it.


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Re: Suiattle trail questions
« Reply #26 on: April 04, 2019, 07:53:13 PM »
It doesn't exist any more other than on old maps.

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Re: Suiattle trail questions
« Reply #27 on: April 04, 2019, 08:55:29 PM »
It's in Routes and Rocks

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Re: Suiattle trail questions
« Reply #28 on: April 05, 2019, 10:26:00 AM »
It's in Routes and Rocks

Where it references "a recent road (1955)", this predates the enclusion in,  or creation of the Glacier Peak Wilderness area.  I understand this was about 1963 and have heard of people that drove almost all the way up to Spider Meadow around 1960ish.

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Re: Suiattle trail questions
« Reply #29 on: April 05, 2019, 10:30:25 AM »
It's in Routes and Rocks

Where it references "a recent road (1955)", this predates the enclusion in,  or creation of the Glacier Peak Wilderness area.  I understand this was about 1963 and have heard of people that drove almost all the way up to Spider Meadow around 1960ish.

That might have been illegal even then.   Prior to the creation of the Glacier Peak Wilderness, there was the Glacier Peak Wild Area.   Driving and road construction even then may have been limited to mining.

 


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