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Conflict Goat draw?
« on: April 23, 2019, 08:19:40 AM »
Well new regs out and it looks as if that draw has been deleted. Wonder if WDFW is planning on moving them out of state too?  :bash:
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Re: Conflict Goat draw?
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2019, 08:27:55 AM »
Those goats got relocated.

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Re: Conflict Goat draw?
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2019, 08:40:38 AM »
Those goats got relocated.

They're not all  moved yet, but they're all being moved.
There's another relocation project happening this summer.

Well new regs out and it looks as if that draw has been deleted. Wonder if WDFW is planning on moving them out of state too?  :bash:

By the time hunting season comes around, there won't be many goats left in there. Not sure anyone would want to draw a tag where there are no goats.
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Re: Conflict Goat draw?
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2019, 08:42:25 AM »
Anyone have an idea on the number of goats successfully relocated?  Surprised there wasn't at least a couple extra tags in some of those areas due to bump in population. Are they going in and eliminating the ones that can't be relocated, at least that was my understanding?

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Re: Conflict Goat draw?
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2019, 08:48:01 AM »
Anyone have an idea on the number of goats successfully relocated?  Surprised there wasn't at least a couple extra tags in some of those areas due to bump in population. Are they going in and eliminating the ones that can't be relocated, at least that was my understanding?

The relocation is happening over a 3 year period if I'm not mistaken. At the end of that period, whatever goats are not relocated will be culled.

I don't believe any of the goats that were relocated were put into areas with current hunting seasons.  All were moved to bolster diminishing herds in other areas of the state with the hope of more tags in new areas later on down the road. @Bushcraft  could possibly confirm/clarify but I think I'm accurate.
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Re: Conflict Goat draw?
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2019, 10:06:12 AM »
Yes, they were relocated. I received an email last August from WDFW asking for volunteers to assist in the transportation and relocation 80-100 goats from Olympic National Park to areas in the North Cascades (both inside and outside the park). I'm not sure if other locations have been considered as well, but as far as I know, the relocation happened and was successful.

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Re: Conflict Goat draw?
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2019, 12:17:26 PM »
Yes, they were relocated. I received an email last August from WDFW asking for volunteers to assist in the transportation and relocation 80-100 goats from Olympic National Park to areas in the North Cascades (both inside and outside the park). I'm not sure if other locations have been considered as well, but as far as I know, the relocation happened and was successful.

Only partially done.

The email from Rich Harris came 4/12 looking for volunteers for this summer's relocation project.
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Re: Conflict Goat draw?
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2019, 02:03:48 PM »
This year's translocation will include part of the population that includes the conflict tag.  He didn't think it was fair to the hunters had they drawn.

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Re: Conflict Goat draw?
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2019, 02:55:47 PM »
Yes, they were relocated. I received an email last August from WDFW asking for volunteers to assist in the transportation and relocation 80-100 goats from Olympic National Park to areas in the North Cascades (both inside and outside the park). I'm not sure if other locations have been considered as well, but as far as I know, the relocation happened and was successful.

Only partially done.

The email from Rich Harris came 4/12 looking for volunteers for this summer's relocation project.

Yep, you're right. I got that email right after I posted.

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Re: Conflict Goat draw?
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2019, 03:31:42 PM »
@northwesthunter84 There were 98 goats relocated to five sites in the North Cascades in September 2018. Goats were taken out of Hurricane Ridge.

This year will take goats from there, Hamma Hamma, and Mt. Ellinor.

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Re: Conflict Goat draw?
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2019, 09:34:42 PM »
@northwesthunter84 There were 98 goats relocated to five sites in the North Cascades in September 2018. Goats were taken out of Hurricane Ridge.

This year will take goats from there, Hamma Hamma, and Mt. Ellinor.

Pretty sure some goats went to places outside of the north cascades also.
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Re: Conflict Goat draw?
« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2019, 04:56:16 AM »
I just got a couple e-mails of the state looking for volunteers for the Mt Goat relocating project.
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Re: Conflict Goat draw?
« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2019, 06:58:57 AM »
It surprises me more people aren't concerned about the precedence this sets, removing animals because they are non native. There are a lot of huntable populations that are introduced, the entire state of Colorado for example for goats. Why won't they be next? I live at the base of the olympics, its goat country 100%. I cannot imagine we won't be seeing more of this in the future and its sad because as hunters we are losing opportunities left and right, here's another one lost forever

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Re: Conflict Goat draw?
« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2019, 08:08:51 AM »
@northwesthunter84 There were 98 goats relocated to five sites in the North Cascades in September 2018. Goats were taken out of Hurricane Ridge.

This year will take goats from there, Hamma Hamma, and Mt. Ellinor.

Pretty sure some goats went to places outside of the north cascades also.

That may be the case. I was just reporting what was sent out in the info for requesting volunteers for this year's effort.

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Re: Conflict Goat draw?
« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2019, 08:51:38 AM »
It surprises me more people aren't concerned about the precedence this sets, removing animals because they are non native. There are a lot of huntable populations that are introduced, the entire state of Colorado for example for goats. Why won't they be next? I live at the base of the olympics, its goat country 100%. I cannot imagine we won't be seeing more of this in the future and its sad because as hunters we are losing opportunities left and right, here's another one lost forever

There has already been a next...and there were a lot of people concerned with it. Epic thread on here last year. However..the goats were moved to supplement other herds with the hope of hunting opportunity in the future, so it's not all for not.

https://www.gohunt.com/read/news/grand-teton-mountain-goats-to-be-removed-to-save-bighorn-sheep

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