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Colonial history contains many examples of firearm regulations in urban areas that imposed obstacles to their use for protection of the home. Boston, Philadelphia, and New York—the three largest cities in America at that time—all imposed restrictions on the firing of guns in the city limits. Boston enacted a law in 1746 prohibiting the “discharge” of any gun or pistol that was later revived in 1778; Philadelphia prohibited firing a gun or setting off fireworks without a governor’s special license; and New York banned the firing of guns for three days surrounding New Year’s Day. Those and other cities also regulated the storage of gunpowder. Boston’s gunpowder law imposed a 10-pound fine on any person who took any loaded firearm into any dwelling house or barn within the town. Most, if not all, of those regulations would violate the Second Amendment as it was construed in the 5–4 decision that Justice Antonin Scalia announced in Heller on June 26, 2008.
From the Bill of Rights:A well-regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.Interesting interpretation. Basically he is saying the 2nd amendment only applies to members of a militia. That could open a whole new can or worms... Can militia's form and possess more advanced weaponry? Drones? Tanks? Do we want States developing their own army's? Maybe... Maybe not...I always interpreted it as:Because we want to enable militia's, the people's right to bear arms shall not be infringed. Not as: A Militia member's right to bear arms shall not be infringed...But then again, I am not a Supreme Court Justice!
Quote from: Rob on May 15, 2019, 06:11:18 AMFrom the Bill of Rights:A well-regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.Interesting interpretation. Basically he is saying the 2nd amendment only applies to members of a militia. That could open a whole new can or worms... Can militia's form and possess more advanced weaponry? Drones? Tanks? Do we want States developing their own army's? Maybe... Maybe not...I always interpreted it as:Because we want to enable militia's, the people's right to bear arms shall not be infringed. Not as: A Militia member's right to bear arms shall not be infringed...But then again, I am not a Supreme Court Justice!The Constitution wasn't written in an afternoon. Our founding fathers debated and poured over every word. If they only wanted only the militia to have guns then they would have written "the right of the militia to bear arms, shall not be infringed". But they didn't write that that, they wrote "the right of the people to bear arms, shall not be infringed". Thus making it clear to even the most ignorant person that individual people in the US have the right to bear arms. Justice Stevens is well aware of this, yet wants to spew nonsense just because he doesn't like the 2nd Amendment.
The Second Amendment did not grant or create the right to bear arms.......the Second Amendment was created by the right to bear arms. That right existed before the Constitution. The Second Amendment merely recognizes that pre-existing right, and declares that the government is constrained in any attempts to violate the right of citizens to bear arms. The right to keep and bear arms would still be there without the Second Amendment. The whole "militia" thing is nonsense.
If we didn't have the 2nd Amendment most if not all of our firearms rights would be long gone in nearly every liberal leaning area of this country if not the whole country. It is a constant battle for the NRA and other groups and individuals bringing lawsuits based on the 2nd Amendment against liberal jurisdictions who try to infringe or remove our right to bear arms.
Quote from: bearpaw on June 08, 2019, 08:44:42 AMIf we didn't have the 2nd Amendment most if not all of our firearms rights would be long gone in nearly every liberal leaning area of this country if not the whole country. It is a constant battle for the NRA and other groups and individuals bringing lawsuits based on the 2nd Amendment against liberal jurisdictions who try to infringe or remove our right to bear arms.That's simply not true......rights are not granted nor taken away by government, nor liberals. Do you honestly believe that if the government decided to get rid of the 1st Amendment we would no longer have the right to free speech in this country ?
Quote from: Igor on June 08, 2019, 02:55:38 PMQuote from: bearpaw on June 08, 2019, 08:44:42 AMIf we didn't have the 2nd Amendment most if not all of our firearms rights would be long gone in nearly every liberal leaning area of this country if not the whole country. It is a constant battle for the NRA and other groups and individuals bringing lawsuits based on the 2nd Amendment against liberal jurisdictions who try to infringe or remove our right to bear arms.That's simply not true......rights are not granted nor taken away by government, nor liberals. Do you honestly believe that if the government decided to get rid of the 1st Amendment we would no longer have the right to free speech in this country ?Try telling that to your North Korean friends. Oh wait..... you can't, because they have nothing like a 1st amendment protection.Do you seriously think that your natural rights can't be trampled by Gov't?There are examples all around the world.At least their right to keep and bear arms is intact. Oh... wait.....
Quote from: Dan-o on June 08, 2019, 03:18:52 PMQuote from: Igor on June 08, 2019, 02:55:38 PMQuote from: bearpaw on June 08, 2019, 08:44:42 AMIf we didn't have the 2nd Amendment most if not all of our firearms rights would be long gone in nearly every liberal leaning area of this country if not the whole country. It is a constant battle for the NRA and other groups and individuals bringing lawsuits based on the 2nd Amendment against liberal jurisdictions who try to infringe or remove our right to bear arms.That's simply not true......rights are not granted nor taken away by government, nor liberals. Do you honestly believe that if the government decided to get rid of the 1st Amendment we would no longer have the right to free speech in this country ?Try telling that to your North Korean friends. Oh wait..... you can't, because they have nothing like a 1st amendment protection.Do you seriously think that your natural rights can't be trampled by Gov't?There are examples all around the world.At least their right to keep and bear arms is intact. Oh... wait.....Do you think that the government actually grants you the rights to freedom of speech, bearing of arms, practicing whichever religion you choose, etc., etc., etc. ?
Quote from: Igor on June 08, 2019, 03:53:55 PMQuote from: Dan-o on June 08, 2019, 03:18:52 PMQuote from: Igor on June 08, 2019, 02:55:38 PMQuote from: bearpaw on June 08, 2019, 08:44:42 AMIf we didn't have the 2nd Amendment most if not all of our firearms rights would be long gone in nearly every liberal leaning area of this country if not the whole country. It is a constant battle for the NRA and other groups and individuals bringing lawsuits based on the 2nd Amendment against liberal jurisdictions who try to infringe or remove our right to bear arms.That's simply not true......rights are not granted nor taken away by government, nor liberals. Do you honestly believe that if the government decided to get rid of the 1st Amendment we would no longer have the right to free speech in this country ?Try telling that to your North Korean friends. Oh wait..... you can't, because they have nothing like a 1st amendment protection.Do you seriously think that your natural rights can't be trampled by Gov't?There are examples all around the world.At least their right to keep and bear arms is intact. Oh... wait.....Do you think that the government actually grants you the rights to freedom of speech, bearing of arms, practicing whichever religion you choose, etc., etc., etc. ?Given that those rights don't exist in most countries of the world, yes.
Or the rights are there, but not acknowledged and suppressed by those governments.
Quote from: Bob33 on June 08, 2019, 04:44:35 PMQuote from: Igor on June 08, 2019, 03:53:55 PMQuote from: Dan-o on June 08, 2019, 03:18:52 PMQuote from: Igor on June 08, 2019, 02:55:38 PMQuote from: bearpaw on June 08, 2019, 08:44:42 AMIf we didn't have the 2nd Amendment most if not all of our firearms rights would be long gone in nearly every liberal leaning area of this country if not the whole country. It is a constant battle for the NRA and other groups and individuals bringing lawsuits based on the 2nd Amendment against liberal jurisdictions who try to infringe or remove our right to bear arms.That's simply not true......rights are not granted nor taken away by government, nor liberals. Do you honestly believe that if the government decided to get rid of the 1st Amendment we would no longer have the right to free speech in this country ?Try telling that to your North Korean friends. Oh wait..... you can't, because they have nothing like a 1st amendment protection.Do you seriously think that your natural rights can't be trampled by Gov't?There are examples all around the world.At least their right to keep and bear arms is intact. Oh... wait.....Do you think that the government actually grants you the rights to freedom of speech, bearing of arms, practicing whichever religion you choose, etc., etc., etc. ?Given that those rights don't exist in most countries of the world, yes.Do you agree with the concept of a natural right ? Please explain to me how a natural right, or unalienable right, can exist in one country but not another.