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Re: Throating for the 300’s
« Reply #30 on: June 01, 2019, 07:42:12 PM »
That'll work! I had 338 Edge for a while that only shot 2840 fps with a 300gr OTM from a 30" barrel with max loads. It shot great but that sucker was SLOW! You're in the same ball park with a lot less powder.
now if I can just get that sizing issue taken care of I’ll be golden.   For those that don’t know my shoulder is pushed forward .025” and my shoulder bump die can’t resize the case that last .025”.   Time for custom dies or new brass.
Sure hope my next barrel is at least almost as fast as this McGowen
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Re: Throating for the 300’s
« Reply #31 on: June 01, 2019, 08:32:07 PM »
That'll work! I had 338 Edge for a while that only shot 2840 fps with a 300gr OTM from a 30" barrel with max loads. It shot great but that sucker was SLOW! You're in the same ball park with a lot less powder.
now if I can just get that sizing issue taken care of I’ll be golden.   For those that don’t know my shoulder is pushed forward .025” and my shoulder bump die can’t resize the case that last .025”.   Time for custom dies or new brass.
Sure hope my next barrel is at least almost as fast as this McGowen
What are using for dies for this setup?

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Re: Throating for the 300’s
« Reply #32 on: June 01, 2019, 09:03:09 PM »
That'll work! I had 338 Edge for a while that only shot 2840 fps with a 300gr OTM from a 30" barrel with max loads. It shot great but that sucker was SLOW! You're in the same ball park with a lot less powder.
now if I can just get that sizing issue taken care of I’ll be golden.   For those that don’t know my shoulder is pushed forward .025” and my shoulder bump die can’t resize the case that last .025”.   Time for custom dies or new brass.
Sure hope my next barrel is at least almost as fast as this McGowen

Here's a thought, pick up a cheap 375 Ruger die and have somebody throw it on a lathe and run a boring bar in there to open it up to an ID of .533" to a depth of 2.500". Then you'd end up with a die that functions like a carbide handgun die where there's just a small ring at the mouth of the die which is doing the sizing. It would only cost you a couple bucks for the die and an hour of machine time to bore it out. It would be slow going since the die is hardened, but it's very doable.

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Re: Throating for the 300’s
« Reply #33 on: June 01, 2019, 09:06:43 PM »
That'll work! I had 338 Edge for a while that only shot 2840 fps with a 300gr OTM from a 30" barrel with max loads. It shot great but that sucker was SLOW! You're in the same ball park with a lot less powder.
now if I can just get that sizing issue taken care of I’ll be golden.   For those that don’t know my shoulder is pushed forward .025” and my shoulder bump die can’t resize the case that last .025”.   Time for custom dies or new brass.
Sure hope my next barrel is at least almost as fast as this McGowen
What are using for dies for this setup?

Normally the 338/375 Ruger can get sized with a 338 RCM die for the neck and shoulder and then a 375 Ruger die to body size when necessary. Since Jasent had to get all fancy with his 338/375 Long  :chuckle:, the body length is too long for a 375 Ruger die to size the web on the case.

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Re: Throating for the 300’s
« Reply #34 on: June 02, 2019, 06:08:30 AM »
Yes I’m using the 338 RCM and 375 ruger fl with expander removed.
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Re: Throating for the 300’s
« Reply #35 on: June 02, 2019, 07:08:15 AM »
Yes I’m using the 338 RCM and 375 ruger fl with expander removed.
I kinda remember jasnt saying he ran the reamer a little deeper, I would call CH4D and get a set made to your specs.
On another note, I have just about everything back for my build minus a longer rear action screw and scope. I will start a thread showing the build process soon.

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Re: Throating for the 300’s
« Reply #36 on: June 05, 2019, 04:19:26 PM »
I’m considering renting an edge reamer and ordering brass and dies.  I originally went with 338/375 cause I wanted a repeater but since I’ve been single feeding anyway I may as well take advantage of this fast barrel while it’s still holding consistent speed.   :dunno: or just order a new barrel and shoot this one till it’s finished.
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Re: Throating for the 300’s
« Reply #37 on: June 05, 2019, 05:44:55 PM »
Your getting 2800 FPS from a 30 inch barrel with your current setup and York’s said he was getting 2840 FPS from a 30 inch barrel with his 338 Edge. Doesn’t seem like you’ll gain much for a lot more powder dump  :dunno:

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Re: Throating for the 300’s
« Reply #38 on: June 05, 2019, 06:35:57 PM »
Your getting 2800 FPS from a 30 inch barrel with your current setup and York’s said he was getting 2840 FPS from a 30 inch barrel with his 338 Edge. Doesn’t seem like you’ll gain much for a lot more powder dump  :dunno:
if I order a new barrel I’ll go 32”.  This barrel is fast and with more capacity I think I might hit 2950-3000.  Who knows how the new barrel might do but I will be going .338 edge on my next barrel anyway.  With my current setup 2200 yards is my max and that’s holding over as well as maxing out the dial.  New scope is on the list but my next goal is 2500-3k yards.
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Re: Throating for the 300’s
« Reply #39 on: June 05, 2019, 06:39:15 PM »
Your getting 2800 FPS from a 30 inch barrel with your current setup and York’s said he was getting 2840 FPS from a 30 inch barrel with his 338 Edge. Doesn’t seem like you’ll gain much for a lot more powder dump  :dunno:
if I order a new barrel I’ll go 32”.  This barrel is fast and with more capacity I think I might hit 2950-3000.  Who knows how the new barrel might do but I will be going .338 edge on my next barrel anyway.  With my current setup 2200 yards is my max and that’s holding over as well as maxing out the dial.  New scope is on the list but my next goal is 2500-3k yards.
The sky is the limit man  :tup:

What’s your current scope setup and what are thinking about getting? I’m currently looking at scopes for my build. So many flavors out there.

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Re: Throating for the 300’s
« Reply #40 on: June 05, 2019, 06:50:40 PM »
Got a few I’m looking at.  Wanting at least a 100 min and decent glass.  99% of my shooting is done at 20x so I’m thinking a fixed power for this rifle.        Some day I’ll be shooting the moon :chuckle:   I got crown taste’s on a steel reserve budget but I still get it done. 
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Re: Throating for the 300’s
« Reply #41 on: June 06, 2019, 04:59:45 PM »
I’m considering renting an edge reamer and ordering brass and dies.   or just order a new barrel and shoot this one till it’s finished.

What you've got going on with your current setup seems to be working pretty well for you, so if it were me, I'd leave it be till it's toast, then chamber the new barrel to 338 Edge.  Maybe give some thought to having Shawn w/Defensive Edge do his +P throat on it.  Shawn is getting over 3000fps w/300gr Bergers from 30in tubes in his 338 Edge +P setups.

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Re: Throating for the 300’s
« Reply #42 on: June 06, 2019, 06:46:54 PM »
I’m considering renting an edge reamer and ordering brass and dies.   or just order a new barrel and shoot this one till it’s finished.

What you've got going on with your current setup seems to be working pretty well for you, so if it were me, I'd leave it be till it's toast, then chamber the new barrel to 338 Edge.  Maybe give some thought to having Shawn w/Defensive Edge do his +P throat on it.  Shawn is getting over 3000fps w/300gr Bergers from 30in tubes in his 338 Edge +P setups.
It is working well and I’m happy with this rifle! It has become like my 243, point and click and the bullet hits where I want.
It’s my goals that are pushing me to change.  With this setup at 2500-3k I’m looking at 4.5-6.5 sec tof and over 400ft above line of sight.  That’s a long time for those unknown winds to push the bullet around.   At 3000fps and 3k yards I’d be half sec faster and 100’ shorter ark.   It all adds up.  At the rate I’m going I think I’ll order the barrel and round up dies and brass and by the time the barrel is finished this one will be toast or close to it
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Re: Throating for the 300’s
« Reply #43 on: June 06, 2019, 08:23:23 PM »
I hate to say it, but it's time to think 375. Even the 338 CT is starting to drop off past 2500 yards with the 300gr OTM. You might consider trying the 375xc and build it on a Savage action. If you picked up one of the single shot 112 Magnums in 338 Lapua you could sell the factory barrel for $200 and only be into the stocked action for about $900. Then just have a 375xc barrel chambered up and you're good to go. The brass and dies would set you back a decent chunk of change but they're very high quality. The 350gr SMK is about the same price the 300gr OTM and there are a ton of good solid copper options in 375.

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Re: Throating for the 300’s
« Reply #44 on: June 07, 2019, 10:20:05 AM »
I hate to say it, but it's time to think 375. Even the 338 CT is starting to drop off past 2500 yards with the 300gr OTM. You might consider trying the 375xc and build it on a Savage action. If you picked up one of the single shot 112 Magnums in 338 Lapua you could sell the factory barrel for $200 and only be into the stocked action for about $900. Then just have a 375xc barrel chambered up and you're good to go. The brass and dies would set you back a decent chunk of change but they're very high quality. The 350gr SMK is about the same price the 300gr OTM and there are a ton of good solid copper options in 375.
i would think by the time I got a decent stock and trigger on it I’d be about same as cheytac. 
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