Do you personally get better groups with faster bullets?

[Oh Mah]

I'm doing some research in my loading data and came to this.

Poll :  Do you get better groups when your at close to the store bought fps of a round or are you getting tighter groups going faster?By faster i mean 200 fps and up and of the same weight.If yes please explain your set up. Thanks.

[jrebel]

I can't answer this question because of all the variables.  What I will say.....I find that to much speed is a bad thing.  Amost all of my rifles shoot better with less than max loads.  When I start reaching max loads, I find accuracy goes out the window.  I am an accuracy guy and could care less about speed.....but I also shoot heavy bullets for caliber.

[wadu1]

I can't answer this question because of all the variables.  What I will say.....I find that to much speed is a bad thing.  Amost all of my rifles shoot better with less than max loads.  When I start reaching max loads, I find accuracy goes out the window.  I am an accuracy guy and could care less about speed.....but I also shoot heavy bullets for caliber.

I'm with jrebel 100% even with my 22-250 slower speeds are best 38gr H380 and any bullet. 

[hogslayer]

Slower nodes are usually wider and more forgiving. Having a larger cartridge run at lower speed is easier than a smaller cartridge running near max.  BUT, I do have some rifles that like it hot.  Just have to stay on top of them more with throat wear and shooting form 

[92xj]

During my loading and testing with hammer bullets, the more powder and pressure I crammed in the case the better the groups and greater the speed.

[Oh Mah]

Are these the same bullets that a member posted about that are really long bullets?
What is the standard store bought fps?
How much faster 92xj AND WHAT GRAIN?

[jasnt]

I can’t answer this as I haven’t shot a factory round in 6 years.  That said I always choose the highest node but that’s mainly because I’m trying to shoot as far as my setup can allow.

[Oh Mah]

You are def. the exception jasnt. No doubt.

Just to keep in line with others jasnt how much faster are you throwing those heavies?

[92xj]

Are these the same bullets that a member posted about that are really long bullets?
What is the standard store bought fps?
How much faster 92xj AND WHAT GRAIN?

I have a thread on here about pressure signs in my 300 that goes into a lot of detail about what I tested.  Steve at hammer just came out with a 196gr specifically for the 10 twist 300s.  I am running those with 75gr of h1000 at 3015 fps.  I tested the 199 hammer hunters and they would not stabilize for me.  The 199sledge hunters shot lights out as well as the 196gr hunters.  I started low around 72grs and 2800fps, every grain I increased the groups got better and the primers stated to flattened.  I got to 75gr with great groups and plenty of speed without getting to a point I was worried about too much pressure

[Oh Mah]

When this thread dies down i plan on sharing what it is i came up with,Which may or may not mean anything since every tool is different.

[jasnt]

You are def. the exception jasnt. No doubt.

Just to keep in line with others jasnt how much faster are you throwing those heavies?

which ones? 243 with 115’s or 338 and 300’s
Should say 3055 with 115’s, 2715 with 300’s

[jrebel]

Are these the same bullets that a member posted about that are really long bullets?
What is the standard store bought fps?
How much faster 92xj AND WHAT GRAIN?

I have a thread on here about pressure signs in my 300 that goes into a lot of detail about what I tested.  Steve at hammer just came out with a 196gr specifically for the 10 twist 300s.  I am running those with 75gr of h1000 at 3015 fps.  I tested the 199 hammer hunters and they would not stabilize for me.  The 199sledge hunters shot lights out as well as the 196gr hunters.  I started low around 72grs and 2800fps, every grain I increased the groups got better and the primers stated to flattened.  I got to 75gr with great groups and plenty of speed without getting to a point I was worried about too much pressure

Are the hammer bullets that much faster than say an ELD-X?  I am shooting 212 ELD-X out of my 300 win mag.  It is being pushed by 76.5 grains of H100 and I am getting 2880 fps, 26" barrel. 

I tried the 214 Hammers and couldn't get them to group.....wonder If I needed to push them faster??? 

[JimmyHoffa]

Remington accelerators for the .30-06 were pretty darn fast--over 4000 fps with 55 grain.  Groups weren't that great.

[Oh Mah]

I'm looking at them and they look pretty darn good.1.557 long.Anyone use them on big game that can let us know how they worked other than tag filled?

[jrebel]

I'm looking at them and they look pretty darn good.1.557 long.Anyone use them on big game that can let us know how they worked other than tag filled?

I have some 214's adn 227 (I think) that didn't shoot well in my rifle if you want to give them a try.  They are stupid expensive so I am kind of glad they did not work.