Washington State Grizzly Reintroduction

[ctwiggs1]

Copied and pasted yours.

[wolfbait]

Release and Discover?

Grizzly bear just off the Spring Coulee rd, down close to homes, don't get surprised...

Seems the grizzly bears have already "migrated" to WA.

[huntnnw]

what I find funny is they wanna re introduce to north cascades, but nothing is stopping grizzlies from migrating from canada into these areas. As mentioned food, the lack of food in those mts, sparse deer pop, no moose and hardly any elk to speak of.

[asmith]

My comment this go around.


NO!

Washington Ungulates are facing unprecedented challenges with wolves establishing on the landscape and gross mismanagement by the state WDFW agency. WDFW had been failing to properly managing predators and has led to a rapid decline in our Elk herds as well as other ungulate species.  We in Washington are inundated with too many Mt. Lions, too many black bear, too many wolves. Introduction of yet another apex predator would contribute to an even greater decline.  I know that it is the practice to relocate problem bears, don't lie to us, we don't want problem bears either!   

If the Grizz want to be in the Cascade ecosystem they'll get there naturally;

We don't need them imported from other western states happy to be rid of them.

Comment made. 

I used this as a template for my comments, hope you don't mind.  Added and subtracted a few things.

[buglebrush]

I've got five different Grizzlies on a single camera in the NE Corner!  What in the world makes them think we need more of them!     Wouldn't it be amazing to see them actually care about our rapidly declining moose or mule deer populations like they do about their precious predators?

[ctwiggs1]

I've got five different Grizzlies on a single camera in the NE Corner!  What in the world makes them think we need more of them!     Wouldn't it be amazing to see them actually care about our rapidly declining moose or mule deer populations like they do about their precious predators?

That's pretty incredible.  Just a decade ago I recall them thinking we only had at most a dozen grizzlies in the state.

[buglebrush]

I've got five different Grizzlies on a single camera in the NE Corner!  What in the world makes them think we need more of them!     Wouldn't it be amazing to see them actually care about our rapidly declining moose or mule deer populations like they do about their precious predators?

That's pretty incredible.  Just a decade ago I recall them thinking we only had at most a dozen grizzlies in the state.

I'm sure they were full of 💩 then too.  If there's not a predator crisis happening where would the bios get funding?

[WildlifeAssassin]

Thank you to everyone who has commented. Here is the link again,

https://parkplanning.nps.gov/document.cfm?parkID=327&projectID=44144&documentID=77025

Pushback is the only thing that stops this BS, if you haven’t commented or only sent it to WDFW, please comment here as well.

[Bushcraft]

The issue has been killed for now.  (And no, I'm not going to elaborate on who and how it got done.)

Regardless, please continue making comments against the reintroduction.  The more that are cataloged for future reference, the better.

[wolfbait]

Comment period reopened for grizzly restoration proposal

https://methowvalleynews.com/2019/07/31/comment-period-reopened-for-grizzly-restoration-proposal/

[Vine Maples and Cottonwoo]

Here's my guess- There are too many grizzlies in Montana, Wyoming. More than needed for recovery. They have recovered and have become a troublesome nuisance. Powerful Interest do not want to allow them to be hunted/managed, but, need someplace to release problem bears, rather than hunt them, euthanize them. Their answer is to release these problem bears into Washington State, in the North Cascades. Out of sight/out of mind. Washington will become the dumping ground for problem grizzlies.
The Alternatives listed in the article seems to indicate my suspicion is correct, and would probably vary depending on the need to relocate problem bears. It would seem that Washington is chosen because it is far enough away from the problem bears home range, that it is unlikely they would return once relocated. Problem bears that return, likely need to be permanently removed, something the Powerful Interest don't want to do.
If Washington is native habitat for grizzlies, so to would be Oregon, Northern California, the Dakotas, New Mexico and Arizona.

An interesting quote from the article-
"Although the actual number of grizzlies in the NCE is not known, it is “highly unlikely that the area contains a viable grizzly bear population,” the original draft EIS stated. There have been only four confirmed detections of grizzly bears in the greater NCE in the past decade, all of which occurred in British Columbia and may comprise only two bears. There is no confirmed evidence of grizzly bears in the U.S. portion of the NCE since 1996, according to the draft EIS."
Actual Numbers of Grizzlies is unknown- Hmm. maybe, maybe not. Just like numbers of wolves are unknown...
Only 4 confirmed sightings in the last decade- Hmm, like wolf reports that are unconfirmed? Maybe someone doesn't want them confirmed? Only seen in BC? Is that believable?
My guess is that more is known than admitted to.
I'd also guess that there might be some photos of grizzles in the North Cascades available from some here. Some have probably tried to report their sighting, only to be blown off.
My other guess regarding the need for high predator populations, is to keep people out, and make survival very difficult. I would also guess that these plans fall into line with the Agenda 21 Plans.

[Elkaholic daWg]

Commented this AM and

[WildlifeAssassin]

Keep the comments flowing. Defenders of Wildlife were at the commission meeting promoting grizzly reintroduction again yesterday. Talking about working with BHA to teach people how to use bear spray and prepare for them on the landscape. Speak now or don’t complain when there are no more hunting opportunities.

[Pegasus]

I don't know what you guys are complaining about. First it was the wolves, now it is the grizzly bars. By crikey we've got bigger things to worry about...L.A. and Baltimore are bringing back typhus and the bubonic plague and Seattle is not far behind them.

[elkchaser54]

Agenda 21 ?? I had to Google that one.  I love forums for exposing me to new and ridiculous conspiracy theories.  It's the UN and mind controlling Obama behind grizzly bear reintroduction.  Definitely has nothing to do with environmental organizations trying to expand predators cause they think they are cuter then elk and deer.