Spring bear changes on the table!!!

[Timberstalker]

Is bringing back bear baiting totally out of the question at this point?

As far as asking wdfw to bring it back, yes, totally out of the question.  The ban on baiting is state law, not wdfw policy.  Wdfw does not have legal authority to restore baiting or hounds.

So then, the Hound Season we had ~10 years ago was brought on by initiative?

I dont know how the hell that was possible, but it obviously got squashed.  If you want to waste your breath asking wdfw to bring back hounds, be my guest.

I’m not questioning you. Don’t let your panties get bunched up.    too soon?

I think it’s important that we keep this forward motion moving.
If there’s a chance to get baiting or hounds back, I’d love to explore it. That’s all I’m wondering.

[STIKNSTRINGBOW]

Is bringing back bear baiting totally out of the question at this point?

As far as asking wdfw to bring it back, yes, totally out of the question.  The ban on baiting is state law, not wdfw policy.  Wdfw does not have legal authority to restore baiting or hounds.

There is wording in the law to allow special permits by WDFW, that is how private timber companies are allowed to do it.

[Jpmiller]

Is bringing back bear baiting totally out of the question at this point?

As far as asking wdfw to bring it back, yes, totally out of the question.  The ban on baiting is state law, not wdfw policy.  Wdfw does not have legal authority to restore baiting or hounds.

There is wording in the law to allow special permits by WDFW, that is how private timber companies are allowed to do it.

Sounds like a special draw baiting/hound permit to me, not that I'm in a position to take advantage of either.

[dilleytech]

Is bringing back bear baiting totally out of the question at this point?

As far as asking wdfw to bring it back, yes, totally out of the question.  The ban on baiting is state law, not wdfw policy.  Wdfw does not have legal authority to restore baiting or hounds.

There is wording in the law to allow special permits by WDFW, that is how private timber companies are allowed to do it.

Sounds like a special draw baiting/hound permit to me, not that I'm in a position to take advantage of either.

Special draw bear baiting tag would be a good start.

[Bango skank]

If you guys want baiting, hounds, all that, id suggest you make that an entirely separate issue with the department.  Whats on the table now is changes to spring bear season.  Dates, permit numbers, etc.  I think it would be best if any emails sent in right now focused on the matter currently at hand, spring bear regulations.  That is what they are open to making changes to right now.  If theyre getting a bunch of emails about a bunch of other random stuff like baiting and hounds, its just going to be a mess of background noise that i feel will take away from the effect of a generally unified voice pushing for the same thing, increased spring opportunity.  focus on what is currently in reach, worry about the other stuff next, after we get this.   

We will have more of an effect if everybody is asking for more or less the same thing, and will be taken more seriously if we are asking for something that is actually up for review.

Send emails supporting expanded spring bear opportunity to:

Commission@dfw.wa.gov
Wildthing@dfw.wa.gov
Director@dfw.wa.gov

[Timberstalker]

If you guys want baiting, hounds, all that, id suggest you make that an entirely separate issue with the department.  Whats on the table now is changes to spring bear season.  Dates, permit numbers, etc.  I think it would be best if any emails sent in right now focused on the matter currently currently at hand, spring bear regulations.  That is what they are open to making changes to currently.  If theyre getting a bunch of emails about a bunch of other random stuff like baiting and hounds, its just going to be a mess of background noise that i feel will take away from the effect of a generally unified voice pushing for the same thing, increased spring opportunity.  focus on what is currently in reach, worry about the other stuff next, after we get this.   

I agree 100%.  They'll listen to ideas about Spring Bear; get it while we can.

[Oh Mah]

If you guys want baiting, hounds, all that, id suggest you make that an entirely separate issue with the department.  Whats on the table now is changes to spring bear season.  Dates, permit numbers, etc.  I think it would be best if any emails sent in right now focused on the matter currently at hand, spring bear regulations.  That is what they are open to making changes to right now.  If theyre getting a bunch of emails about a bunch of other random stuff like baiting and hounds, its just going to be a mess of background noise that i feel will take away from the effect of a generally unified voice pushing for the same thing, increased spring opportunity.  focus on what is currently in reach, worry about the other stuff next, after we get this.   

We will have more of an effect if everybody is asking for more or less the same thing, and will be taken more seriously if we are asking for something that is actually up for review.

Send emails supporting expanded spring bear opportunity to:

Commission@dfw.wa.gov
Wildthing@dfw.wa.gov
Director@dfw.wa.gov

I agree  .It would be awesome to have baiting and hounds again but if we want it we need to get there first.
OTC tags spring and fall would be a great start.We want (i hope all of us)the bears to have good numbers not to many and not too few either.Before we bring baiting and hounds to the table we need to get some numbers (true numbers) of how many bears that is.If we have over that amount and we hunters can't get them down to that number without baiting or hounds then and only then can we even have a discussion about it.  MUDDYING THE WATER WILL NOT GET US ANYWHERE ON ANYTHING.How many on here in WA. even have hounds to hunt bear?

[Eric M]

If you guys want baiting, hounds, all that, id suggest you make that an entirely separate issue with the department.  Whats on the table now is changes to spring bear season.  Dates, permit numbers, etc.  I think it would be best if any emails sent in right now focused on the matter currently at hand, spring bear regulations.  That is what they are open to making changes to right now.  If theyre getting a bunch of emails about a bunch of other random stuff like baiting and hounds, its just going to be a mess of background noise that i feel will take away from the effect of a generally unified voice pushing for the same thing, increased spring opportunity.  focus on what is currently in reach, worry about the other stuff next, after we get this.   

We will have more of an effect if everybody is asking for more or less the same thing, and will be taken more seriously if we are asking for something that is actually up for review.

Send emails supporting expanded spring bear opportunity to:

Commission@dfw.wa.gov
Wildthing@dfw.wa.gov
Director@dfw.wa.gov

I agree  .It would be awesome to have baiting and hounds again but if we want it we need to get there first.
OTC tags spring and fall would be a great start.We want (i hope all of us)the bears to have good numbers not to many and not too few either.Before we bring baiting and hounds to the table we need to get some numbers (true numbers) of how many bears that is.If we have over that amount and we hunters can't get them down to that number without baiting or hounds then and only then can we even have a discussion about it.  MUDDYING THE WATER WILL NOT GET US ANYWHERE ON ANYTHING.How many on here in WA. even have hounds to hunt bear?

Ill bet a lot of guys would get hounds if they could use them.

[WildlifeAssassin]

Spring bear was discussed on the commission conference call today. They stated they have received lots of comments and were excited that people care and are getting involved. KEEP SENDING COMMENTS! They absolutely do pay attention to our comments but they can’t read your mind so please write in.

[Bango skank]

Our voices were heard and we got the fall bear regs change, now lets keep it up and get the spring regs improved too! Send those emails!

[trophyhunt]

Our voices were heard and we got the fall bear regs change, now lets keep it up and get the spring regs improved too! Send those emails!

is it official now?

[Bango skank]

Yes!

[trophyhunt]

Wow, I’m shocked!  Good job everyone and thanks Wdfw!

[Rainier10]

I will be sending emails asking that spring bear hunts get opened up in most GMU's even if only on a limited basis, 10 permits if that is all the population can take in some units.  I am sure they figure not everyone with a permit will harvest.

[JeffRaines]

Our voices were heard and we got the fall bear regs change, now lets keep it up and get the spring regs improved too! Send those emails!

Sorry for derailment - does that take effect next year or this year? Regulations are the same as of right now which is why I'm asking