Koro rat trap?

[Cougartail]

Are they legal ?

[Humptulips]

In April I spoke with Eric Gardner Deputy Director for Wildlife. He told me yes. I spoke with Director Susewind about a week later and he told me yes they are legal and I could expect to receive a copy of a directive going to Enforcement Officers making this clear.
I have yet to receive anything in writing and yes I have sent numerous e-mails and left many voice mails about this to no avail. It seems Standard Operating Procedure at Olympia to never return calls or reply to e-mails. Very frustrating! I keep trying.

[Humptulips]

I spoke with Chief Bear this morning and there is another meeting regarding KORO rat traps Friday. I thought this was a done deal but apparently Enforcement is balking. Chief Bear says he has asked for guidance from the AGs office. This is the third time I have been told that so maybe this time they are actually doing it.
I should know more next week.

[DishBogget]

I don’t know how you deal with them, I would’ve completely lost it by now.


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[Cougartail]

More meetings so no one person holds a decision and takes responsibility.. Blame sharing is how it works to keep your job..  lol

[Humptulips]

Still no luck getting a response to my inquiries. I think I can ambush them at the Commission meeting and put them on the spot.

[DishBogget]

Still no luck getting a response to my inquiries. I think I can ambush them at the Commission meeting and put them on the spot.

I like it


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[Humptulips]

I now have a letter OKing the use of the KORO rat trap. It seems though the Department or at least some in it still want to put up a fight about it. We do have interim use but it looks like we will have to continue the pressure as they have telegraphed their intent to revisit the issue.
I'm attaching a memo I received from the Director to the Chief of Enforcement.

[flyfishWA]

I now have a letter OKing the use of the KORO rat trap. It seems though the Department or at least some in it still want to put up a fight about it. We do have interim use but it looks like we will have to continue the pressure as they have telegraphed their intent to revisit the issue.
I'm attaching a memo I received from the Director to the Chief of Enforcement.

to bad it looks like they might try to change it soon? will the small version (the one allowed for now) kill a mink do you think?

[Humptulips]

I now have a letter OKing the use of the KORO rat trap. It seems though the Department or at least some in it still want to put up a fight about it. We do have interim use but it looks like we will have to continue the pressure as they have telegraphed their intent to revisit the issue.
I'm attaching a memo I received from the Director to the Chief of Enforcement.

to bad it looks like they might try to change it soon? will the small version (the one allowed for now) kill a mink do you think?

I believe it will kill a mink. It is just a question of figuring out how to set the trap to get the proper strike. I have never caught a mink in one and it will take a little experimentation to see how to get them into the trap far enough. Plenty strong, if you can get them in far enough for a strike across the neck it would be lights out.
I have ideas but right now that's all they are.

[DishBogget]

So essentially we found a loophole that they’ll allow us to use until such time as they can close it?


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[Humptulips]

I wouldn't be quite that pessimistic. It will undoubtedly come up but we will have a say, so it is not certain they will be successful in outlawing them.

[DishBogget]

I wouldn't be quite that pessimistic. It will undoubtedly come up but we will have a say, so it is not certain they will be successful in outlawing them.

Thanks Bruce appreciate all you do.


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[Cougartail]

There are 2 sizes of these traps. They are both called rodent traps. (Large & small.) Are they both legal?

[Humptulips]

There are 2 sizes of these traps. They are both called rodent traps. (Large & small.) Are they both legal?

No, Only the 3.5"x4" tall "Rodent" is legal. The "Large Rodent" is built and sold for muskrat and therefore not considered a "common rat trap". The letter from the Director is very specific to the 3.5"x 4" size.