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Blackhorn 209 ?
« on: July 10, 2019, 05:37:03 AM »
I picked up a CVA Optima from a member on here . I was thinking about getting the blackhorn plug and using the blackhorn 209 . Just looking for some real world experience. Pros and cons ? Thanks Jason

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Re: Blackhorn 209 ?
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2019, 06:20:01 AM »
I didn't look too hard, but was unable to find any to try (local)

Anyone know where to find it?

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Re: Blackhorn 209 ?
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2019, 06:23:08 AM »
I like it. Way cleaner and isn't corrosive. Definitely get more shots in between cleanings.

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Re: Blackhorn 209 ?
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2019, 06:46:11 AM »
I like it. Way cleaner and isn't corrosive. Definitely get more shots in between cleanings.

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Be somewhat careful with BH 209. While it is not AS corrosive as other BP and BP subs - it still has Potassium and Sulphur in the mix (necessary to qualify as a BP sub).  It can get to blued ML's much quicker than you might think 
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Re: Blackhorn 209 ?
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2019, 07:24:29 AM »
BH is still corrosive after the shot, still need to clean once you get home. I had a gun that shot better fouled, I left it dirty for two weeks, bad idea! Breech plug was pitted, barrel appeared to be ok though. Now I clean after any day I shoot. Very quick and  easy to clean a gun that’s shooting BH and they do make a solvent specifically for it.

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Re: Blackhorn 209 ?
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2019, 07:43:44 AM »
BH is still corrosive after the shot, still need to clean once you get home. I had a gun that shot better fouled, I left it dirty for two weeks, bad idea! Breech plug was pitted, barrel appeared to be ok though. Now I clean after any day I shoot. Very quick and  easy to clean a gun that’s shooting BH and they do make a solvent specifically for it.
Curious as I have been looking at adding a ML to the stable and was thinking 209 based on what I have read. 

If it shoots better fouled but you clean it due to corrosion, what do you do for hunting season to make sure it is shooting optimum?  Or is the difference small enough to not be much difference at hunting ranges?  Would going with a stainless barrel be a better option for corrosion resistance in that situation?

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Re: Blackhorn 209 ?
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2019, 08:23:19 AM »
BH is still corrosive after the shot, still need to clean once you get home. I had a gun that shot better fouled, I left it dirty for two weeks, bad idea! Breech plug was pitted, barrel appeared to be ok though. Now I clean after any day I shoot. Very quick and  easy to clean a gun that’s shooting BH and they do make a solvent specifically for it.
Curious as I have been looking at adding a ML to the stable and was thinking 209 based on what I have read. 

If it shoots better fouled but you clean it due to corrosion, what do you do for hunting season to make sure it is shooting optimum?  Or is the difference small enough to not be much difference at hunting ranges?  Would going with a stainless barrel be a better option for corrosion resistance in that situation?

BH is somewhat corrosive but nothing like what you expect when compared to other BP's or BP subs.

BH is a great powder for most if you are able to use a primer for ignition.  I, personally, do not use it all that much because of the cost for 10 ounces of powder.  I choose to use T7 which is somewhat more corrosive than BH but not so corrosive that I have to worry about it use.  BUT! I am shooting Stainless Steel ML - were I shooting blued models, I am sure that I would have to be more vigilant about the possibility of corrosion.  The next consideration might be the people on the wet side of Washington.  Water-Moisture is the trigger for corrosion.  If the residue in the bore after shooting gets damp the corrosion process will begin.

How you maintain your bore/breech is the key factor.  As stated I use T7 and seldom clean during the hunting season because I do prefer to shoot a "semi fouled" bore.  So in most cases I really do not 'clean' the rifle until the end of hunting season.  The main thought is if you think there is moisture in your bore you have to get it dried out.  Without moisture the corrosion process is stymied.


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Re: Blackhorn 209 ?
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2019, 11:28:46 AM »
How many shots are you talking about taking in a range session?

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Re: Blackhorn 209 ?
« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2019, 07:45:38 PM »
I didn't look too hard, but was unable to find any to try (local)

Anyone know where to find it?
Three forks Reloading in Cle Elum has it. Next time I go over to that side you want me to get you some?

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Re: Blackhorn 209 ?
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2019, 08:07:44 PM »
I got some at basspro. Had to ask the guy at the gun counter though. They keep it in the back.

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Re: Blackhorn 209 ?
« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2019, 08:14:13 PM »
I asked the guy at Bass Pro, at the gun counter, and he said they don't carry it there.  When I got home, the web site said they had it in stock at Tacoma

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Re: Blackhorn 209 ?
« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2019, 10:04:08 PM »
I had a buddy get some for me today at sportsmans warehouse in federal way and they had more..

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Re: Blackhorn 209 ?
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2019, 05:39:20 AM »
I’ll give federal way sportsman’s a call!

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Re: Blackhorn 209 ?
« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2019, 07:10:09 AM »
I stopped by Sportsman's on Friday after my Tahoma duty, but they were out

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Re: Blackhorn 209 ?
« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2019, 08:36:42 AM »
I stopped by Sportsman's on Friday after my Tahoma duty, but they were out
The federal way store?

 


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