Making my ATV legal question.

[trophyhunt]

Pretty much have all the rules nailed down, but one question about the turn signal lights.  Do I need 4 or 8?  Will I pass inspection just having turn signal lights in the front and rear, or do I also need them on the sides? I bought a kit for my 700 grizz, horn, turn signals (4), mirrors and license plate light.

[MADMAX]

Front and rear 
don’t forget a horn
I pretty much wasted my money since this state is so restrictive as to where you can use them

[trophyhunt]

Got the horn, so just front and rear then, no side lights.  Thank you.

[MADMAX]

Good luck

[Mudman]

I just did my utv.  Easy.  1 light each corner all that's needed.  More the better, I did 2 each corner.  Just mount in location where its sorta visible from sides.  They bubble out so that helps.  Mirror, horn, turn/brake light.  Good to go.  I do believe required Wa insurance when on street?  Inspection is stupid easy 30 seconds and $50.  Then state takes another $50 to change title to say "street"!   Or just Farm exempt sticker it and rock on... I used Tusk kit from RCKMNTATV.  Good cheaper full kit.

[elksnout]

Not to sound like a jerk but what's the point of so doing? I mean, where can a guy ride on the  street?
Would this allow me to ride mine in the national forest where all the signs are posted that only street legal vehicles are on the road?

Elksnout

[bearpaw]

Some WA counties allow use on any roads except state highways and freeways. You can drive right through town or down county highways or dirt roads. The forest service in WA does not allow use except on specified sections of road, but you can ride on a county road through the national forest in a county that allows use. You can also ride roads in state land and open timber company lands.

In Idaho you can ride anywhere in the state except state highways and freeways, that includes any roads on national forest.

[jackelope]

Not to sound like a jerk but what's the point of so doing? I mean, where can a guy ride on the  street?
Would this allow me to ride mine in the national forest where all the signs are posted that only street legal vehicles are on the road?

Elksnout

I’ve seen a few riding around Duvall here on the west side lately. They’re parked right on Main St so they must be legal.

[elksnout]

Not to sound like a jerk but what's the point of so doing? I mean, where can a guy ride on the  street?
Would this allow me to ride mine in the national forest where all the signs are posted that only street legal vehicles are on the road?

Elksnout

I’ve seen a few riding around Duvall here on the west side lately. They’re parked right on Main St so they must be legal.

That would be cool.

[KopperBuck]

My county down here (Union) just passed a law this week allowing 4 wheelers on the roads except for 8 county roads (and obviously Hwy/Frwy). But I'm not sure if it's required to be street legal. Couple of the towns already had allowed them. Be nice to take it to work on nice days!

[trophyhunt]

I see them all over here in Bonney lake, I believe I will have to stay off roads that have a speed limit over 45.

[Katmai Guy]

I would think once you pay the money and they change the title to say Street, you are now street legal, you are no longer an ATV, so you can ride them on the roads 35mph or less.

[MADMAX]

You would think
I cant believe not even legal on a lot of NF roads

[trophyhunt]

Some WA counties allow use on any roads except state highways and freeways. You can drive right through town or down county highways or dirt roads. The forest service in WA does not allow use except on specified sections of road, but you can ride on a county road through the national forest in a county that allows use. You can also ride roads in state land and open timber company lands.

In Idaho you can ride anywhere in the state except state highways and freeways, that includes any roads on national forest.

so now that I have all the required lights and stuff installed, are you saying with a street legal quad I still can’t drive on FS roads?  Don’t the signs say, “street legal vehicles only”?

[MADMAX]

Bingo
A few years ago I had mine fully street legal in the back of my truck I was over in Winthrop I was heading up into the Wenatchee national forest
The fish cop actually told me make sure you don’t unload that ATV and try to use it up there
I said why not it street legal he said you must’ve not seen the little tiny sign that said no ATVs
Very limited legal areas on Forest service land unless you’re somewhere like Conconully

[trophyhunt]

Seems like a contradiction, only legal vehicles, yet no atv’s.  I wonder if someone has challenged this in court?  I’d think with legalizing atv’s becoming more popular that eventually all the counties would be on the same level.

[MADMAX]

You can ride on the Jeep trails
Not the roads........most places

[bornhunter]

You can ride on the Jeep trails
Not the roads........most places

What is the FS so worried about if the atvs are street legal?

[81husky]

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What is the FS so worried about if the atvs are street legal?
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Good question. When I go to Idaho, I see them everywhere including National Forest. Is it just Washington NF that has a problem, or does Idaho have the same regulations, but it's just not enforced?

[bornhunter]

Washinton is probably some danged gopher will get run over

What is the FS so worried about if the atvs are street legal?
[/quote]

Good question. When I go to Idaho, I see them everywhere including National Forest. Is it just Washington NF that has a problem, or does Idaho have the same regulations, but it's just not enforced?
[/quote]

[trophyhunt]

The wa side of FS seem to be a bit of nazis, while Idaho and Mont are more common sense. So, how much is the ticket I’m going to get? Another thought, snowmobiles can ride on FS roads, they are definitely not street legal.

[bobcat]

I'm pretty sure Washington is the only state in which ATVs are not allowed on roads in the National Forest.

[jackelope]

Some WA counties allow use on any roads except state highways and freeways. You can drive right through town or down county highways or dirt roads. The forest service in WA does not allow use except on specified sections of road, but you can ride on a county road through the national forest in a county that allows use. You can also ride roads in state land and open timber company lands.

In Idaho you can ride anywhere in the state except state highways and freeways, that includes any roads on national forest.

so now that I have all the required lights and stuff installed, are you saying with a street legal quad I still can’t drive on FS roads?  Don’t the signs say, “street legal vehicles only”?

It’s not “street” legal, it’s “highway” legal.

[81husky]

So is it Federal Regulations or County regs that are preventing us from driving in the National forest. Here in Okanogan County there are quite a few roads open to UTV/ATV, but it all stops at the NF boundary. Who do we write or call to get it changed?

[bornhunter]

So is it Federal Regulations or County regs that are preventing us from driving in the National forest. Here in Okanogan County there are quite a few roads open to UTV/ATV, but it all stops at the NF boundary. Who do we write or call to get it changed?

Dont they fall under the Dept of Agriculture?

[Russ McDonald]

Driving on FS land falls under federal regs not the state.   I would contact both the regional office in Portland and your local forests Supervisor Office. 

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[lastmk8]

So is it Federal Regulations or County regs that are preventing us from driving in the National forest. Here in Okanogan County there are quite a few roads open to UTV/ATV, but it all stops at the NF boundary. Who do we write or call to get it changed?

I would guess we call and write everyone we can think of.  Side by Sides are becoming very popular and not even a in use when these rules were written.  Big push started in 2016/17 concerning changing the laws.  Some have changed and I believe NF are supposed to have a road use plan, yet many do not yet. Now many that do allow ATV's cap the size at 50" maximum width, thus keeping the UTV still out of the picture.  Makes no sense to me as I see jeeps wheelin' all over the place.  Anyway, so I called Tonasket Ranger Station asking about their road use plan and if I can drive my UTV (Gator RSX860) in the area where I hunt.  He told me three "mountain areas" that UTV's were ok to drive on NF roads and that I would not be issued a ticket.  I did neglect to write down "Ranger Rick's" real name but I will get if before I do head over.  I do recommend checking with the local Ranger station, for me it was much easier than trying to find any useful information on the subject via their web site.... probably because it is hindered by "government".

I do suspect that this rules will change drastically over time, they are just to popular, yet, if folks head up to rip up the mountains then I see it staying of coming back to being restrictive.  Reviewing many off road trail sites and things there are still a large number that do not support 50" wide plus rides, I for one am hoping this number decreases and give us "old folks" an opportunity to get out and about in our rides.

[deerlick]

Too many stupid people would crash and endanger others as far as im concerned. Not talking hunters. Just imagine road 70 on a Saturday if they were legal. It would look like the baja 1000

[Mudman]

Um, have ya noticed people are riding the roads anyways.  And not being ticketed.  I haven't got ticket but not a regular either.  Rode rimrock/ahtanum recently.  Jeep trails galore and sxs.  Know a person who was told to stop up Stampeded but that's it.  Each district has own road use plans.  Wetside sticklers, east is better.  Idaho rocks.  My sxs is titled hiway use and has insurance so why should it be banned?  Bunch of crap imop.

[jackelope]

Adding a little to this discussion....

I learned today that street legal quads and UTV's are totally legal in the city of …. wait for it …. Bellevue.

[trophyhunt]

I’m just going to street legal it, and ride on fs roads when I need to, guess I’ll see what happens.

[Mudman]

That's a good plan.  I do the same.  If ticketed then ok, so what, still cheaper then most things in this state.

[Katmai Guy]

Adding a little to this discussion....

I learned today that street legal quads and UTV's are totally legal in the city of …. wait for it …. Bellevue.

Yep, soon in snohomish, legal in monroe, startup, goldbar.  Probably more places people just assume illegal

[Stein]

Arlington police ride a quad around, my neighbor has a UTV he rides into town fairly frequently for some reason.

[Bluemoon]

Thanks again Washington State. After getting my new Can-Am Defender street legal. Yesterday I called up my insurance company (USAA) to put insurance on it to be completely street legal. I was shocked that Washington State requires all ATV, UTV, Off road motorcycles and Snowmobiles to have added Medical Insurance to the tune of $35.00 a month on the policy. Another hidden money maker for Comrade Insley.  You can sign a waver which I did. But what a crock of @#$%^&. 
Especially since my SxS is licensed in Montana and the chances of it ever seeing a Washington road is very low.  But I 'm still a Washington resident. (for now).

[Happy Gilmore]

Thanks again Washington State. After getting my new Can-Am Defender street legal. Yesterday I called up my insurance company (USAA) to put insurance on it to be completely street legal. I was shocked that Washington State requires all ATV, UTV, Off road motorcycles and Snowmobiles to have added Medical Insurance to the tune of $35.00 a month on the policy. Another hidden money maker for Comrade Insley.  You can sign a waver which I did. But what a crock of @#$%^&. 
Especially since my SxS is licensed in Montana and the chances of it ever seeing a Washington road is very low.  But I 'm still a Washington resident. (for now).

We have USAA and they simply will not insure my street legal Honda Pioneer or my Harley. I have Progressive for the ATV and motorcycle.

[Russ McDonald]

Thanks again Washington State. After getting my new Can-Am Defender street legal. Yesterday I called up my insurance company (USAA) to put insurance on it to be completely street legal. I was shocked that Washington State requires all ATV, UTV, Off road motorcycles and Snowmobiles to have added Medical Insurance to the tune of $35.00 a month on the policy. Another hidden money maker for Comrade Insley.  You can sign a waver which I did. But what a crock of @#$%^&. 
Especially since my SxS is licensed in Montana and the chances of it ever seeing a Washington road is very low.  But I 'm still a Washington resident. (for now).

We have USAA and they simply will not insure my street legal Honda Pioneer or my Harley. I have Progressive for the ATV and motorcycle.

I have USAA and they insured my Pioneer but my travel trailer is through Progressive

[Mudman]

Our UTV is pd for but I still carry insurance as its street legal.  Safeco I think is who has policy for it.  $34 month?   If i roll it down the mnt its $500 deductible.   

[the1rod]

So what happens if someone takes a side by side and drops a jeep tub on it?  Is it now a vehicle,  or still an atv?

[Russ McDonald]

It would have to pass inspection through the DMV to be licsensable.

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[Happy Gilmore]

So what happens if someone takes a side by side and drops a jeep tub on it?  Is it now a vehicle,  or still an atv?

I think there are a bunch of rules and laws revolving around customized vehicles. WSP inspections, new stamped VIN numbers on the frame and obvious safety requirements. By putting a jeep body on another frame, the VIN on the windshield would no longer match numbers on the frame and body which would alert WSP something is up. Vehicle VIN identifiers are found on locations other than the windshield.

[bod]

Do yourself a favor
and take my advice
Get a Suzuki Samurai

[Boss .300 winmag]

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[Happy Gilmore]

Do yourself a favor
and take my advice
Get a Suzuki Samurai

and a kidney belt the hard tail Harley riders use