Buddy in Eastern Oregon saw tons of rubs and ground all tore up...no elk standing at them. I'm heading down to Oregon this weekend, give you an update next week. I did see 4 bulls sparring pretty good mid last week. Dust was flying and the bigger one of the 4 kept getting mildly challenged by the others. He stood his ground and finally just layed down and raked the ground while laying down. Getting fired up.