Fearing violence, state of Washington cancels wolf meetings

[Special T]

I don't think there was any threats to the staff, although I could be wrong about that. When the militia in Stevens county said they were going to show up well-armed for the meeting the department had the option of canceling that meeting or canceling them all across the state, obviously they chose the latter.

This is either a misdirection or you are not as well connected as you used to be.

[Bango skank]

No sweat.  I still think the state should have held the rest of the meetings.

I disagree.  Then public input would have been a lot more one sided.  Cancel the stevens county meeting and not the others?  Hell no.

[WAcoyotehunter]

No sweat.  I still think the state should have held the rest of the meetings.

I disagree.  Then public input would have been a lot more one sided.  Cancel the stevens county meeting and not the others?  Hell no.

that's a fair point, but on the other side of the coin should normal folks be quieted by a bunch of gun-carrying knuckleheads in Northeast Washington? Either way you wouldn't be getting an accurate cross section

[Bango skank]

No sweat.  I still think the state should have held the rest of the meetings.

I disagree.  Then public input would have been a lot more one sided.  Cancel the stevens county meeting and not the others?  Hell no.

that's a fair point, but on the other side of the coin should normal folks be quieted by a bunch of gun-carrying knuckleheads in Northeast Washington? Either way you wouldn't be getting an accurate cross section

Yeah, i guess theres no real good solutions when people try to disrupt what should be a civilized public discussion.  Its just a damn shame we cant deal with this whole mess reasonably.  I view the entire wolf program as a disaster, and i would sure like to see some progress get made.

[jackelope]

I don't think there was any threats to the staff, although I could be wrong about that. When the militia in Stevens county said they were going to show up well-armed for the meeting the department had the option of canceling that meeting or canceling them all across the state, obviously they chose the latter.

This is either a misdirection or you are not as well connected as you used to be.

Please expand on your theory of intended misdirection.

[Dan-o]

No sweat.  I still think the state should have held the rest of the meetings.

I disagree.  Then public input would have been a lot more one sided.  Cancel the stevens county meeting and not the others?  Hell no.

that's a fair point, but on the other side of the coin should normal folks be quieted by a bunch of gun-carrying knuckleheads in Northeast Washington? Either way you wouldn't be getting an accurate cross section

Is that really how you see the East side crowd who would care enough to go to the meeting?


Regardless, I hate to see the meetings cancelled.
Feels like the bullies win.

[jackelope]

No sweat.  I still think the state should have held the rest of the meetings.

I disagree.  Then public input would have been a lot more one sided.  Cancel the stevens county meeting and not the others?  Hell no.

that's a fair point, but on the other side of the coin should normal folks be quieted by a bunch of gun-carrying knuckleheads in Northeast Washington? Either way you wouldn't be getting an accurate cross section

Is that really how you see the East side crowd who would care enough to go to the meeting?

I think he’s talking about the militia from Stevens county. Not all of NE WA. Scroll up, Dan.

[Bango skank]

No sweat.  I still think the state should have held the rest of the meetings.

I disagree.  Then public input would have been a lot more one sided.  Cancel the stevens county meeting and not the others?  Hell no.

that's a fair point, but on the other side of the coin should normal folks be quieted by a bunch of gun-carrying knuckleheads in Northeast Washington? Either way you wouldn't be getting an accurate cross section

Is that really how you see the East side crowd who would care enough to go to the meeting?


Regardless, I hate to see the meetings cancelled.
Feels like the bullies win.

Id have to say a group of people announcing that they intend to show up armed certainly are knuckleheads.  Its no surprise they canceled the meeting, what did they expect?  If they were half smart they would have just showed up, preferrably concealed carrying.  But no, they had to make an announcement before hand that a group of armed men were coming.  Stupid.  Just CC and keep your mouth shut about it.  Thats what everybody else does, but i guess some people just cant help but be *censored* soldier larpers.

[Dan-o]

Got it.

Knuckleheads.

[jackelope]

Soldier larpers.  Gah I love it.

[KFhunter]

Ya, I got a chuckle from that too 

[Special T]

https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2019/aug/31/sue-lani-madsen-reward-offer-shows-ranchers-frustr/

Could this be why the "Militia" said they were going to show up to the meeting? 

[WAcoyotehunter]

Maybe, I don't know. I think it's strange that they haven't been able to find any conclusive evidence that cattle are actually being shot?  Wouldn't a metal detector pick up any bullet fragments and couldn't a necropsy help them discover a bullet hole?

[KFhunter]

Maybe, I don't know. I think it's strange that they haven't been able to find any conclusive evidence that cattle are actually being shot?  Wouldn't a metal detector pick up any bullet fragments and couldn't a necropsy help them discover a bullet hole?

that's been done and verified

[Special T]

perhaps My Google Fu is lacking but i didnt find a statement where the "Armed Militia" planned to attend the meetings... is it in a different thread on here?

We are left with 2 options on threats

It is coming from the local/ranching community, or the Extreme Green types.

I have a hard time thinking it is the locals. They are making lots of political noise, and Now have the ability to encourage the Colville Tribal members manage without limits. Aside from a local wacking a wolf i dont see the incentive, especially since the WDFW said they dont fear for the Staff.

The Extreme Green types have performed all manner of eco terrorism in Washington in the past. Spiking trees, wrecking equipment and the like. Shooting cows would likely fit past actions of "retribution".  Taking it to the next level making threats against people fits this groups is a big step.

So Im left with the question which group benift would assaulting or shooting a person, and who would it hurt the most?

The folks in the NE are finally starting to get some traction.  Since I dont live there my perception may be wrong. We have a director that is actually following the wolf agreement and The Colville have unshackled its members on the N half.