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Sounds pretty crappy. That's a big investment to come up short like that.With that said, it's tough love time buddy! You've got a valid tag, during an open season, with vacation time on the books and you're sitting at work sulking on the internet? You are a more motivated individual than that. Go home, grab your gear, and get your ass back on the mountain sir
Quote from: Karl Blanchard on September 03, 2019, 11:47:33 AMSounds pretty crappy. That's a big investment to come up short like that.With that said, it's tough love time buddy! You've got a valid tag, during an open season, with vacation time on the books and you're sitting at work sulking on the internet? You are a more motivated individual than that. Go home, grab your gear, and get your ass back on the mountain sir Working on that as we speak. I am trying to get all my ducks in a row here at work and home and get ahead of of the game so we can give it another go in a few weeks. I appreciate the tough love for sure!
Quote from: vandeman17 on September 03, 2019, 11:59:46 AMQuote from: Karl Blanchard on September 03, 2019, 11:47:33 AMSounds pretty crappy. That's a big investment to come up short like that.With that said, it's tough love time buddy! You've got a valid tag, during an open season, with vacation time on the books and you're sitting at work sulking on the internet? You are a more motivated individual than that. Go home, grab your gear, and get your ass back on the mountain sir Working on that as we speak. I am trying to get all my ducks in a row here at work and home and get ahead of of the game so we can give it another go in a few weeks. I appreciate the tough love for sure! I assumed that would be the answer but figured I'd call you out publicly just to be safe
No, this was a full priced deal. He has a camp down lower, about 6 miles away that he has dropped people from for a while. We actually hiked down to it and hunted around it as well. It wasn't good either. He only does drop camps and no guided hunts
And you are offering this criticism why???
Quote from: 2MANY on September 03, 2019, 12:27:03 PMAnd you are offering this criticism why???because he sounded surprised of the outcome. when it should have been expected. pick poor dates, get poor results, bitch about the outfitter on the internet. check the stream of sympathy just seemed ridiculous to me. even guys calling on outing the outfitter for his terrible business practice. he dropped the guy off when the guy asked to be dropped off. sounds like t was a sound transaction based on a poor or at least unrealistic expectation decision from the client. you went elk hunting in august with a bow. you got what the same results 90% of guys who make that decision get.
Quote from: 2MANY on September 03, 2019, 12:27:03 PMAnd you are offering this criticism why???Because he knows Vande's schedule, reasoning, and justification for picking early dates, duh.
Quote from: 92xj on September 03, 2019, 12:52:08 PMQuote from: 2MANY on September 03, 2019, 12:27:03 PMAnd you are offering this criticism why???Because he knows Vande's schedule, reasoning, and justification for picking early dates, duh. The reasons he choose the dates he did doesn't really matter. The criticism for paying for a drop camp that early is valid. A DIY camping trip makes sense but paying for a drop camp in an area you've never been and complaining about tough conditions is a bit of a head scratcher. This is a case of neither party being particularly innocent. I'm sure communication and overselling were issues, but throwing the towel in after 2 days of ruff conditions at the end of August is hard to defend. I can vouch that he didn't have a lot of directions to go, he really only had one, but it's also an area that gets better as the season progresses and animals get pressured. It sucks he didn't have a good trip, but expecting to be parked in the middle of good elk hunting at the end of August is a huge ask for anywhere that doesn't have a high fence.