drop camp elk hunt a bust

[WapitiTalk1]

Man, that just plain stinks.  I've heard of real horror stories about some drop camp hunts (eerily similar to yours).  What's a guy gonna do though?  You put your trust in a reputable outfitter to place you in an area where the should be elk and when there is not, again, what's a guy gonna do?  You can't just sit there in elk less country for XX days or even weeks.    You made the only decision you could really, to get outa there.... save some vacation time for another hunt.     

[Karl Blanchard]

Sounds pretty crappy. That's a big investment to come up short like that.

With that said, it's tough love time buddy! You've got a valid tag, during an open season, with vacation time on the books and you're sitting at work sulking on the internet? You are a more motivated individual than that. Go home, grab your gear, and get your ass back on the mountain sir

[vandeman17]

Sounds pretty crappy. That's a big investment to come up short like that.

With that said, it's tough love time buddy! You've got a valid tag, during an open season, with vacation time on the books and you're sitting at work sulking on the internet? You are a more motivated individual than that. Go home, grab your gear, and get your ass back on the mountain sir

Working on that as we speak. I am trying to get all my ducks in a row here at work and home and get ahead of of the game so we can give it another go in a few weeks.

I appreciate the tough love for sure!

[Karl Blanchard]

Sounds pretty crappy. That's a big investment to come up short like that.

With that said, it's tough love time buddy! You've got a valid tag, during an open season, with vacation time on the books and you're sitting at work sulking on the internet? You are a more motivated individual than that. Go home, grab your gear, and get your ass back on the mountain sir

Working on that as we speak. I am trying to get all my ducks in a row here at work and home and get ahead of of the game so we can give it another go in a few weeks.

I appreciate the tough love for sure!

I assumed that would be the answer but figured I'd call you out publicly just to be safe

[vandeman17]

Sounds pretty crappy. That's a big investment to come up short like that.

With that said, it's tough love time buddy! You've got a valid tag, during an open season, with vacation time on the books and you're sitting at work sulking on the internet? You are a more motivated individual than that. Go home, grab your gear, and get your ass back on the mountain sir

Working on that as we speak. I am trying to get all my ducks in a row here at work and home and get ahead of of the game so we can give it another go in a few weeks.

I appreciate the tough love for sure!

I assumed that would be the answer but figured I'd call you out publicly just to be safe

Now that its public I can't back out or my reputation of somewhat of a hardcore hunter would be ruined! 

[gee_unit360]

Why don’t you give the guys name so no one else falls victim to a *censored*ty drop camp area, a waste of money, and time. If someone does *censored*ty business it’s okay to call them out.

[lord grizzly]

No, this was a full priced deal. He has a camp down lower, about 6 miles away that he has dropped people from for a while. We actually hiked down to it and hunted around it as well. It wasn't good either. He only does drop camps and no guided hunts

why would you go so early? i know guys get all hyped up about the start of elk season but man to pay a guy to drop you off in august and then be upset about elk hunting being crap.uh, its august... give it three weeks. quite frankly the higher the better in that low success rate time frame. and before i get blown up by all the experts. yup, ive killed bulls labor day weekend.
 and nope, its not worth the time. if is a day or two within an hour of the house i may go out if its not 100 degrees. plan a multi day drop camp and its expense? thats nuts...

[2MANY]

And you are offering this criticism why???

[92xj]

And you are offering this criticism why???

Because he knows Vande's schedule, reasoning, and justification for picking early dates, duh.

Of course Vande had the whole season off of work and just threw a dart at the calendar and let that dart pick the dates.  Clearly everyone is wide open and has the choice to pick whatever dates throughout elk season that they want and there are never any restrictions outside of hunting that dictate what dates can be spent in the woods.

[Timberstalker]

Duh, common sense @92xj

[lord grizzly]

And you are offering this criticism why???

because he sounded surprised of the outcome. when it should have been expected. pick poor dates, get poor results, bitch about the outfitter on the internet. check

 the stream of sympathy just seemed ridiculous to me. even guys calling on outing the outfitter for his terrible business practice. he dropped the guy off when the guy asked to be dropped off. sounds like t was a sound transaction based on a poor or at least unrealistic expectation decision from the client. you went elk hunting in august with a bow. you got what the same results 90% of guys who make that decision get.

[pianoman9701]

You're welcome in our camp any time, Van. We're roughing it this year with Russian caviar, steaks, and vodka. Sounds similar to what you were looking forward to. And we keep moving camp so Plateau can't find us with his revenge-eroni sticks. Let me know and we'll give you coordinates. 

[vandeman17]

And you are offering this criticism why???

because he sounded surprised of the outcome. when it should have been expected. pick poor dates, get poor results, bitch about the outfitter on the internet. check

 the stream of sympathy just seemed ridiculous to me. even guys calling on outing the outfitter for his terrible business practice. he dropped the guy off when the guy asked to be dropped off. sounds like t was a sound transaction based on a poor or at least unrealistic expectation decision from the client. you went elk hunting in august with a bow. you got what the same results 90% of guys who make that decision get.

You sir, know all. I bow down to your ultimate knowledge. On my next trip, I will make sure to consult your expertise.

[theleo]

And you are offering this criticism why???

Because he knows Vande's schedule, reasoning, and justification for picking early dates, duh.

The reasons he choose the dates he did doesn't really matter. The criticism for paying for a drop camp that early is valid. A DIY camping trip makes sense but paying for a drop camp in an area you've never been and complaining about tough conditions is a bit of a head scratcher. This is a case of neither party being particularly innocent. I'm sure communication and overselling were issues, but throwing the towel in after 2 days of ruff conditions at the end of August is hard to defend. I can vouch that he didn't have a lot of directions to go, he really only had one, but it's also an area that gets better as the season progresses and animals get pressured. It sucks he didn't have a good trip, but expecting to be parked in the middle of good elk hunting at the end of August is a huge ask for anywhere that doesn't have a high fence.

[lord grizzly]

And you are offering this criticism why???

Because he knows Vande's schedule, reasoning, and justification for picking early dates, duh.

The reasons he choose the dates he did doesn't really matter. The criticism for paying for a drop camp that early is valid. A DIY camping trip makes sense but paying for a drop camp in an area you've never been and complaining about tough conditions is a bit of a head scratcher. This is a case of neither party being particularly innocent. I'm sure communication and overselling were issues, but throwing the towel in after 2 days of ruff conditions at the end of August is hard to defend. I can vouch that he didn't have a lot of directions to go, he really only had one, but it's also an area that gets better as the season progresses and animals get pressured. It sucks he didn't have a good trip, but expecting to be parked in the middle of good elk hunting at the end of August is a huge ask for anywhere that doesn't have a high fence.

be careful with all that reason and logic around here. its not appreciated.