Wolves

[Pat/Rick]

wolves r protected (disclaimer).I would never advocate the killing of or kill one myself.

[TheHunt]

This is what the pro-wolf people are pretending not to understand. With wolves overpopulating the Rocky Mountains and the Cascades there is really no need for human hunting. That is the point, that is the goal. That is the reality. I believe there is a bloodless revolution going on in this country that is hell bent on changing America into something that I do not recognize. I have been ignoring those who call out like Paul Revere but I am beginning to understand that if we do not do something with in the next few years it will be to late and it will take generations to set things right.

+1
Stop Hunting 101
First Ban Hound Hunting and Baiting Bears.
Introduce and purchase land for Wolves.
When there are 2 many Black Bears bring in Grizzles. Yes Grizzleys do eat Black Bears!!!
When there are not eneough Deer,Elk and Moose from the Wolves and Grizzlies there will be no need to hunt!!! 

This guy has their strategy... They do not call themselves naturalist for nothing.  They are looking for a balance without human intervention.  Nice post

[TheHunt]

  I am disappointed that any one on this site would remotely support wolves in washington wake the F@$( up have you seen what happened to the Idaho elk herd?  Sure they start with the sick and weak but there are only so many of them and next the hole herd is going down. My God its gonna be people like you that we have to thank when elk hunting and moose's huntting gets shut down state wide.    

            Its my opinion we need to fight like hell to get these wolves out of here if we as hunters are not united we will never succeed in anything.       
    Sorry didnt mean to be so harsh but this is a sensetive subject for me.

If that upsets you... THen why don't you get pissed off that soo many of the folks who work for the Washington Fish and Game department who do not HUNT.  Most consider it just an 8 to 5 job.  Some just fish a month out of the year.  That is why it has sooo many non hunters working for it.  There are a ton of fish and game people on here but you never have them step up and say they are fish and game and they neve post any animal they have killed.   Think about that!

[ing]

Me too the really scary think is that this. wolf is the same kind that is running around the west and in washington

The wolves moving in from canada are not that big.  Around 75-85 lbs. for a mature animal.

The wolf tracks we saw in Idaho were bigger than any dog tracks Ive ever seen.  Whats the average dog weigh, 65, 70lbs? Maybe smaller?  I'd say the wolves in Idaho are double that.

[whacker1]

ing - Idaho game regs say 75 - 120 lbs for wolves

[denali]

it's already to late in WA, WDFW web site said that they plan for 15-18 breeding pairs with no population cap.... this in a state with 6.5 million people and the highest population density in the west except California.

a state that does not allow cougar hunting w/ dogs or baiting bears... does anyone think we will seriously attempt to control wolves

[skybusterbo]

Ya those  will find out what a wild experience really is when they come face to face with one.

[bearpaw]

There has been a wolf group meeting for 1 or 2 years that was comprised of various across the board special interests. They came up with a plan that is supposed to be acceptable to everyone including the Feds.

Without having a management plan in place wolves could not be delisted by the Feds, which is why they are delisted in ID/MT but not in WY. WY did not comply with an acceptable plan so they were not delisted in WY.

To sum it up, the only chance we have of having an opportunity to manage wolves is to have an acceptable plan in place and keep good records. If I understand it correctly, Wolves have been delisted in much of eastern WA so once our state decides the numbers are there they could authorize hunting. Once wolves reach the goal in the rest of WA, then they could be delisted by the feds and managed in the rest of WA too.

Best advice I have is to report any sightings of wolves or their sign, take photos if you get a chance. We want every wolf documented so that it puts us closer to the possibility of management.

[BK Dave]

Everbody should watch this!!!

[7mag.]

Not sure how much truth there is to this, but, my brother told me tonight, that he met a couple of young guys while fishing that had pictures of a wolf/coyote crossbreed?, that they shot behind Buckley, thinking that it was a yote. They calle the game dept. and when the gamie came out, he said that there have been a lot of sightings of crossbreeds and pure wolves from Fall City all the way to Enumclaw. He said some were just dogs or coyotes, but some were valid. Like I said, I don't know how true the story is, but my brother saw the pics, and he said it definately had wolf in it.

[jackelope]

there's a thread on here about wolf hybrids somewhere. the fact that they may or may not be crossbred or hybrids is pointless.
a guy i knew in upstate new york had 2 wolf/dog crosses as pets. that doesn't mean there's wolves where i lived in ny....

[7mag.]

there's a thread on here about wolf hybrids somewhere. the fact that they may or may not be crossbred or hybrids is pointless.
a guy i knew in upstate new york had 2 wolf/dog crosses as pets. that doesn't mean there's wolves where i lived in ny....

You're right. I had a wolf/German Shepard cross when I was a kid, didn't mean that there were wolves in my neighborhood. But, if this story is true, this animal was shot in the Kapowison Tree Farm, 20+ miles(one the road) from town. Appearantly, the gamie said it was a wolf/coyote cross. If this is true, I would hazard to guess, that a wolf has been close enough to breed a coyote, and the offspring to travel to that location. That would leave me to believe that there is or was, recently, at least one wolf in the central Cascades of Whashington. Again, this story could be completely false. I just wanted to share it with you guys. I wouldn't have believed any of it, if my brother had not seen the pics.

[bearpaw]

I saw this one when I was watching the one posted by BK Dave. The guys in Idaho are finding plenty of big elk racks from wolf kills, they will eat whatever they find.

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Honestly, I think a few wolves would be fine, there is plenty of game to hunt in Alaska, BC, and Alberta, but they also manage the wolves there.

Wolves just need to be hunted and their numbers kept in check and we wouldn't all be so wound up. The anti's would be farther ahead to back off of the wolves now and move onto another cause, but they are not that smart, too much emotion....

[jackelope]

7mag...here's the thread i was talking about.

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,26601.msg304812.html#msg304812

[trophyhunt]

Don't be fooled that we need those damn things in our state, we don't have vast wilderness like Alaska, wyoming or even idaho and montana. SHOOT, SHOVEL AND SHUT UP!!!! That is the motto in Idaho and Montana it is their motto for a reason, they've lived with them long enough to see what happens to there deer, elk and moose populations. SSS