Troubling Decline in Yakima Elk Herd

[h20hunter]

Mod party? 

[jackelope]

Aaron, Would you be willing to be honest and tell us how many bulls you have killed in the past few years?  Also, when this subject comes up about your jerky business, we want to know why you shoot bulls instead of cows?  Cow meat is much better, imho

Can you produce the number of elk harvested in the name of conflict by the state?

Can anyone? The state can produce harvest numbers as a whole. I can't figure out specifics after a brief look.

Can the Yakama tribe produce the number of elk harvested by tribal hunters at all?
Legit question. I have no idea.

[Tbar]

Aaron, Would you be willing to be honest and tell us how many bulls you have killed in the past few years?  Also, when this subject comes up about your jerky business, we want to know why you shoot bulls instead of cows?  Cow meat is much better, imho

Can you produce the number of elk harvested in the name of conflict by the state?

Can anyone? The state can produce harvest numbers as a whole. I can't figure out specifics after a brief look.

Can the Yakama tribe produce the number of elk harvested by tribal hunters at all?
Legit question. I have no idea.

Are damage numbers included in your table?

[jackelope]

Aaron, Would you be willing to be honest and tell us how many bulls you have killed in the past few years?  Also, when this subject comes up about your jerky business, we want to know why you shoot bulls instead of cows?  Cow meat is much better, imho

Can you produce the number of elk harvested in the name of conflict by the state?

Can anyone? The state can produce harvest numbers as a whole. I can't figure out specifics after a brief look.

Can the Yakama tribe produce the number of elk harvested by tribal hunters at all?
Legit question. I have no idea.

Are damage numbers included in your table?

Like I said, I couldn't figure out specifics. When you say damage hunts, do you mean MH type hunts or the ones they issue to landowners/farmers/etc?

Can the tribe produce any numbers at all?

[Tbar]

I'd be curious to know if anyone from either side would be willing to have a civil discussion without slinging mud?

Am I  out of order your honor?

[Tbar]

Aaron, Would you be willing to be honest and tell us how many bulls you have killed in the past few years?  Also, when this subject comes up about your jerky business, we want to know why you shoot bulls instead of cows?  Cow meat is much better, imho

Can you produce the number of elk harvested in the name of conflict by the state?

Can anyone? The state can produce harvest numbers as a whole. I can't figure out specifics after a brief look.

Can the Yakama tribe produce the number of elk harvested by tribal hunters at all?
Legit question. I have no idea.

Are damage numbers included in your table?

Like I said, I couldn't figure out specifics. When you say damage hunts, do you mean MH type hunts or the ones they issue to landowners/farmers/etc?

Both.  There is no reporting mechanism provided by the state. 

[jackelope]

I'd be curious to know if anyone from either side would be willing to have a civil discussion without slinging mud?

Am I  out of order your honor?

Nobody's out of order yet.

[jmscon]

Aaron, Would you be willing to be honest and tell us how many bulls you have killed in the past few years?  Also, when this subject comes up about your jerky business, we want to know why you shoot bulls instead of cows?  Cow meat is much better, imho

Can you produce the number of elk harvested in the name of conflict by the state?

Can anyone? The state can produce harvest numbers as a whole. I can't figure out specifics after a brief look.

Can the Yakama tribe produce the number of elk harvested by tribal hunters at all?
Legit question. I have no idea.

Are damage numbers included in your table?

Like I said, I couldn't figure out specifics. When you say damage hunts, do you mean MH type hunts or the ones they issue to landowners/farmers/etc?

Both.  There is no reporting mechanism provided by the state.

There is for master hunter and the state knows how many landowner tags are given out every year. Someone has to know within +/- 10% of the number of landowner tags filled.

[jackelope]

Aaron, Would you be willing to be honest and tell us how many bulls you have killed in the past few years?  Also, when this subject comes up about your jerky business, we want to know why you shoot bulls instead of cows?  Cow meat is much better, imho

Can you produce the number of elk harvested in the name of conflict by the state?

Can anyone? The state can produce harvest numbers as a whole. I can't figure out specifics after a brief look.

Can the Yakama tribe produce the number of elk harvested by tribal hunters at all?
Legit question. I have no idea.

Are damage numbers included in your table?

Like I said, I couldn't figure out specifics. When you say damage hunts, do you mean MH type hunts or the ones they issue to landowners/farmers/etc?

Both.  There is no reporting mechanism provided by the state. 

I know assuming is never the best practice, but I assumed the MH hunts were included in the special permits category of the table. I don't know. I'd be willing to email them, but my gut tells me you already know the actual answer to the question.

[Tbar]

Aaron, Would you be willing to be honest and tell us how many bulls you have killed in the past few years?  Also, when this subject comes up about your jerky business, we want to know why you shoot bulls instead of cows?  Cow meat is much better, imho

Can you produce the number of elk harvested in the name of conflict by the state?

Can anyone? The state can produce harvest numbers as a whole. I can't figure out specifics after a brief look.

Can the Yakama tribe produce the number of elk harvested by tribal hunters at all?
Legit question. I have no idea.

Are damage numbers included in your table?

Like I said, I couldn't figure out specifics. When you say damage hunts, do you mean MH type hunts or the ones they issue to landowners/farmers/etc?

Can the tribe produce any numbers at all?

Maybe with a "troubling decline" the state has some incentive to engage.  But, it's going to have to get past the walls that have been built largely on jealousy and a false narrative.

[Woodchuck]

Damage control/kill permits are supposed to be called into the bio that issued said permit/s when filled. Where it goes from there, I don't know.

[jackelope]

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@Time Immemorial
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Does the tribe track elk harvest numbers at all? Do you guys report your harvests?

[Tbar]

Aaron, Would you be willing to be honest and tell us how many bulls you have killed in the past few years?  Also, when this subject comes up about your jerky business, we want to know why you shoot bulls instead of cows?  Cow meat is much better, imho

Can you produce the number of elk harvested in the name of conflict by the state?

Can anyone? The state can produce harvest numbers as a whole. I can't figure out specifics after a brief look.

Can the Yakama tribe produce the number of elk harvested by tribal hunters at all?
Legit question. I have no idea.

Are damage numbers included in your table?

Like I said, I couldn't figure out specifics. When you say damage hunts, do you mean MH type hunts or the ones they issue to landowners/farmers/etc?

Both.  There is no reporting mechanism provided by the state.

There is for master hunter and the state knows how many landowner tags are given out every year. Someone has to know within +/- 10% of the number of landowner tags filled.

They know! It's also a missing element when talking numbers. 

[jackelope]

Aaron, Would you be willing to be honest and tell us how many bulls you have killed in the past few years?  Also, when this subject comes up about your jerky business, we want to know why you shoot bulls instead of cows?  Cow meat is much better, imho

Can you produce the number of elk harvested in the name of conflict by the state?

Can anyone? The state can produce harvest numbers as a whole. I can't figure out specifics after a brief look.

Can the Yakama tribe produce the number of elk harvested by tribal hunters at all?
Legit question. I have no idea.

Are damage numbers included in your table?

Like I said, I couldn't figure out specifics. When you say damage hunts, do you mean MH type hunts or the ones they issue to landowners/farmers/etc?

Can the tribe produce any numbers at all?

Maybe with a "troubling decline" the state has some incentive to engage.  But, it's going to have to get past the walls that have been built largely on jealousy and a false narrative.

Do you mean engage with the tribe?

[B4noon]

It has absolutely nothing to do with what meat is better that's just a side product its called power and greed and the furthest drift from tradition as one can get my forefathers would frown upon such actions it has gone on way to long and unfortunately it will continue until nothing is left when hands are tied the resource is vulnerable and the resource will be what pays the greatest cost in the end as long as there is money to be made and an axe to grind individuals will take advantage of the situation rather then to see the big picture and become a solution to a problem, indigenous ancestory all the way to newly aquired citzenship provides rights and privelages that should be respected an not abused to show power like it or not mistakes were made in the past to all walks of life nobody can fix that we can only learn from it and move forward in a better way then what took place in the past and continuing the battle only leaves us in the past move forward from it dont harbor it and certainly never take it out on the resources that were put here for all to respect, the resources not only elk deserve better to assure that they are here for future generations and that respect should be shared equally from all sides and parties. hunting is a tradition for many cultures and we should work together to make it the best it can be the resource deserves it