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« on: October 07, 2019, 07:17:08 AM »
So while scouting and checking cameras this past weekend my buddy has a fairly regular visitor of a 2 pt. muley/whitetail cross.  Absolutely no mistake about it.  Does anyone know how that would work since WT is any buck and mulies are 3 pt. or better?  Lets just stick to the legality and not talk about whether or not he should let it grow to get bigger.  He is still trying to get his first buck so anything legal will be a trophy for him.

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« Last Edit: October 08, 2019, 07:21:11 AM by tonymiller7 »

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Re: Hybrid bucks and point restrictions???
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2019, 07:24:08 AM »
All I can say is that deer better have a completely light brown tail with no black tip on it and better be white on the underside or he will have a big problem with the warden if checked.
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Re: Hybrid bucks and point restrictions???
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2019, 07:29:30 AM »
All I can say is that deer better have a completely light brown tail with no black tip on it and better be white on the underside or he will have a big problem with the warden if checked.

The body was grey, the tail is full whitetail length and width but bottom half was black.  Never saw the underside of the tail, I would guess it would be white.  No white butt.  Was with a regular whitetail so it was easy to look at the differences.

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Re: Hybrid bucks and point restrictions???
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2019, 07:34:38 AM »
what general region? can you share a pic?
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Re: Hybrid bucks and point restrictions???
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2019, 07:39:34 AM »
I think you have to err on the side of safety.  You could call enforcement and ask them what they think, and then take down names and phone numbers lo back up your claim if they suggest it is OK to harvest that deer.  I doubt they will.   Hybridization cannot be proved without genetic tests, so without obvious signs that it is strongly Whitetail, I'd say you're in a precarious position killing that deer.
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Re: Hybrid bucks and point restrictions???
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2019, 07:41:36 AM »
what general region? can you share a pic?

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Re: Hybrid bucks and point restrictions???
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2019, 07:42:49 AM »
I think you have to err on the side of safety.  You could call enforcement and ask them what they think, and then take down names and phone numbers lo back up your claim if they suggest it is OK to harvest that deer.  I doubt they will.   Hybridization cannot be proved without genetic tests, so without obvious signs that it is strongly Whitetail, I'd say you're in a precarious position killing that deer.

I have an email to them now as well.  By looking I would say its more whitetail characteristics than mule deer.  But I'm going to wait for their reply and depending on their answer print it off for him to carry around. 

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Re: Hybrid bucks and point restrictions???
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2019, 07:55:10 AM »
When in doubt dont shoot.

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Re: Hybrid bucks and point restrictions???
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2019, 07:57:22 AM »
I wouldnt risk it.   8)


In my mind a forked horn muley looks way different in antlers than a two point whitey.   



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Re: Hybrid bucks and point restrictions???
« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2019, 09:22:17 AM »
In this case I would just go by the 3 point minimum rule.

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Re: Hybrid bucks and point restrictions???
« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2019, 09:37:08 AM »
I'd hate for his first buck to get him into hot water and leave him in a legal bind. I'd pass on it.

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Re: Hybrid bucks and point restrictions???
« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2019, 10:34:26 AM »
This brings up an interesting discussion. None of us have seen the deer but if it was me personally and I killed said buck, it would come out of the woods as deboned meat and a skinned off head with no lower jaw. So at that point if i got checked the warden would have to assess whether its a fishy situation or not based on the look of the antlers and skull and not based on hide or tail.
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Re: Hybrid bucks and point restrictions???
« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2019, 10:37:39 AM »
 :yeah:  basically what I meant in my post but not spelled out real well. 

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Re: Hybrid bucks and point restrictions???
« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2019, 11:13:51 AM »
Get us a picture and we could tell you with a lot more certainty. Based on your description though, it sounds like the body is mostly whitey and the horns are muley, is that correct? In that case, I'd call it a muley according to the law.

 


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