Yes it was 8 years ago ,3 years before his passing and I remember it as if it was yesterday , also because It was the last year I rifle hunted cuz of the neer death experience at moonlight in the morning if the opening day of elk season in rimrock area, where some fool is shooting twords me in the light of the morning moon , won't be forgetting that eather , but grandpa really let him have it , definite ly the high light of the trip ,,, in my eyes😄