Wolves on Bethel

[HoofsandWings]

Have any of you seen wolves in the Bethel unit?
Opening day, I got too close to a wolf's kill along Oak Creek and a wolf growled at me. Other people had seen wolves further up the creek. I saw tracks on the hillside above the 1400 road.
Long story short, none of the hunters I talked to saw any elk in the area. However, at higher elevations, hunters were seeing elk.

[coachcw]

no elk because of wolves or whitefoots ?

[boneaddict]

Have any of you seen wolves in the Bethel unit?
Opening day, I got too close to a wolf's kill along Oak Creek and a wolf growled at me. Other people had seen wolves further up the creek. I saw tracks on the hillside above the 1400 road.
Long story short, none of the hunters I talked to saw any elk in the area. However, at higher elevations, hunters were seeing elk.

Ive tracked them, but havent seen them

[MarkTrail]

Coach, I spilled my coffee when I read that response. Not all get it but that was spot on!!!

[Karl Blanchard]

Im 20 min from bethel and have recreated in the area my whole life. In the last two years alone between my bull tag and JonathanS's bull tag I've spent EASILY 100 days in Bethel and every bit of 30 nights.  There is elk EVERYWHERE in that unit and I have yet to see or hear any signs of wolves. Not saying it's not possible but I'm extremely skeptical of all the reported wolf sightings 

[Karl Blanchard]

I'd also point out that I've run across dozens and dozens of trail cams in that unit. Endless elk pics but nobody gets wolf pics doesnt quite add up.

[MarkTrail]

The chances of a wolf or 2 traveling through the area is high. The chances of a pack right now is low.

[2MANY]

Im 20 min from bethel and have recreated in the area my whole life. In the last two years alone between my bull tag and JonathanS's bull tag I've spent EASILY 100 days in Bethel and every bit of 30 nights.  There is elk EVERYWHERE in that unit and I have yet to see or hear any signs of wolves. Not saying it's not possible but I'm extremely skeptical of all the reported wolf sightings 

Karl,
Since you are that close would you please fix the timing on the traffic signal between Naches and Yakima.
I'm sick and tired of getting stopped at it.
Thanks for your continued support.

[Whitefoot]

I seen a pack up there last year.  Several solos too.

[Karl Blanchard]

Im 20 min from bethel and have recreated in the area my whole life. In the last two years alone between my bull tag and JonathanS's bull tag I've spent EASILY 100 days in Bethel and every bit of 30 nights.  There is elk EVERYWHERE in that unit and I have yet to see or hear any signs of wolves. Not saying it's not possible but I'm extremely skeptical of all the reported wolf sightings 

Karl,
Since you are that close would you please fix the timing on the traffic signal between Naches and Yakima.
I'm sick and tired of getting stopped at it.
Thanks for your continued support.

Naches put that light in to make themselves feel like a real town 

[nitroelk]

My parents had something cross the road in front of them that "wasn't no coyote" is what they said?

[Pegasus]

Im 20 min from bethel and have recreated in the area my whole life. In the last two years alone between my bull tag and JonathanS's bull tag I've spent EASILY 100 days in Bethel and every bit of 30 nights.  There is elk EVERYWHERE in that unit and I have yet to see or hear any signs of wolves. Not saying it's not possible but I'm extremely skeptical of all the reported wolf sightings 

In 2017 I spotted two wolves in the Nile 352 GMU and found fresh wolf tracks in the snow in the Bumping unit. Other people hunting 352 also spotted wolves.

[2MANY]

AND.............................
They are just over the west side of the PCT from there.

I'm not directing this at anyone here but I get a big kick out of some people's denial.
The growth across the west has been nothing but epic and swift.
A real success story for those that saw fit to release them.
Soon WA folks will accept and never question the wolves continued range growth.
They are here to stay.

On a positive note it will only be 15 years until the depredation cycle evens out so in the big picture it's a pretty short window of time.
Pathetic.

[Bango skank]

I'd also point out that I've run across dozens and dozens of trail cams in that unit. Endless elk pics but nobody gets wolf pics doesnt quite add up.

One area that i have very heavy cam coverage is regularly frequented by wolves, i know for a 100% fact.  Only ever had 1 on cam there.  Also, at one point i had 10 cams up on my 21 acre property, which i would call pretty heavy coverage.  Had a wolf go by 1 cam of the 10, and another time i followed wolf tracks in the snow all the way through my property and they missed all 10 cams.  Ive heard them howling from my house multiple times, and even had a helicopter chasing them through my place multiple times, but only ever got 1 pic of a single wolf here at home.  Also, of those dozens of cams youve run across, how do you know none of them are getting wolf pics? Not everybody posts stuff like that on social media.

[boneaddict]

Peaches has a heavy wolf presence now.   If Bethel doesnt have wolves it will shortly.  Apparantly they are in the Wenas now and this side of the Observatory.  That'll fix the sheep pneumonia worries on Clemans in short order. 

[Cascade]

Peaches has a heavy wolf presence now.   If Bethel doesnt have wolves it will shortly.  Apparantly they are in the Wenas now and this side of the Observatory.  That'll fix the sheep pneumonia worries on Clemans in short order.

Unfortunately you're right.  Ashbaugh's started seeing wolves in the Wenas 4-5 years ago.   

[huntandjeep]

I have seen 2 wolves in Bethal , 1st one 4 years ago ,  watched this one for almost an hour , the second 3 years ago saw him for about 5 minutes , heard one 2 years ago . Both sightings were in the same canyon .   Have also seen 1 in Tampico on  Short and Dirty Trail and heard them in Rimrock . They are around .

[fishngamereaper]

I don't doubt a couple move through from time to time but I wouldn't say there is a bunch of wolves in peaches...I spend a lot of time on both sides of peaches and have yet to see obvious signs of them..

I suspect they pass through back and forth from the teanaway to the rimrock and all area's in between. They have a pretty big range.

[ghosthunter]

In 2016 and 2o17 we muzzy hunted the Nile. Camped high up near Glass Creek in tents.
We’re seeing elk every day. One night six of us were woke up by wolf howling above camp. Didn’t see another elk that week.

Just a skip over to Bethel and Bumping from there.

[adamR]

I'm with Karl.   There are elk everywhere in Bethel.  There might be a random wolf that has passed through the unit but I live in the unit and recreate from east to west in the unit.  I've never seen any sign of them.  What I do see, everywhere in the unit, is elk.  Get off the road, hunt hard, Bethel can be productive.  Or, blame it on the wolves and move on...

Im 20 min from bethel and have recreated in the area my whole life. In the last two years alone between my bull tag and JonathanS's bull tag I've spent EASILY 100 days in Bethel and every bit of 30 nights.  There is elk EVERYWHERE in that unit and I have yet to see or hear any signs of wolves. Not saying it's not possible but I'm extremely skeptical of all the reported wolf sightings 

[Naches Sportsman]

Need to post pics of tracks, wolf crap, or wolves to be credible. A video of them howling will work too.

Closest credible sighting and last wolf I've seen a trail cam pic of off a biologists phone was up the north fork rattlesnake early 2018.

[blackpowderhunter]

I'm with Karl.   There are elk everywhere in Bethel.  There might be a random wolf that has passed through the unit but I live in the unit and recreate from east to west in the unit.  I've never seen any sign of them.  What I do see, everywhere in the unit, is elk.  Get off the road, hunt hard, Bethel can be productive.  Or, blame it on the wolves and move on...

Im 20 min from bethel and have recreated in the area my whole life. In the last two years alone between my bull tag and JonathanS's bull tag I've spent EASILY 100 days in Bethel and every bit of 30 nights.  There is elk EVERYWHERE in that unit and I have yet to see or hear any signs of wolves. Not saying it's not possible but I'm extremely skeptical of all the reported wolf sightings 

nonsense!
it's way easier to blame the tag soup on wolves or a full moon. 

[PlateauNDN]

I'm with Karl.   There are elk everywhere in Bethel.  There might be a random wolf that has passed through the unit but I live in the unit and recreate from east to west in the unit.  I've never seen any sign of them.  What I do see, everywhere in the unit, is elk.  Get off the road, hunt hard, Bethel can be productive.  Or, blame it on the wolves and move on...

Im 20 min from bethel and have recreated in the area my whole life. In the last two years alone between my bull tag and JonathanS's bull tag I've spent EASILY 100 days in Bethel and every bit of 30 nights.  There is elk EVERYWHERE in that unit and I have yet to see or hear any signs of wolves. Not saying it's not possible but I'm extremely skeptical of all the reported wolf sightings 

nonsense!
it's way easier to blame the tag soup on wolves or a full moon. 

  next Adam will be saying Mt Goats are so easy to hunt he just has to walk out his back door and shoot.

[adamR]

I'm with Karl.   There are elk everywhere in Bethel.  There might be a random wolf that has passed through the unit but I live in the unit and recreate from east to west in the unit.  I've never seen any sign of them.  What I do see, everywhere in the unit, is elk.  Get off the road, hunt hard, Bethel can be productive.  Or, blame it on the wolves and move on...

Im 20 min from bethel and have recreated in the area my whole life. In the last two years alone between my bull tag and JonathanS's bull tag I've spent EASILY 100 days in Bethel and every bit of 30 nights.  There is elk EVERYWHERE in that unit and I have yet to see or hear any signs of wolves. Not saying it's not possible but I'm extremely skeptical of all the reported wolf sightings 

nonsense!
it's way easier to blame the tag soup on wolves or a full moon. 

  next Adam will be saying Mt Goats are so easy to hunt he just has to walk out his back door and shoot.

Also a true statement...   

[Fish4Fun]

We have hunted the Bethel for close to 50 years, see lots of elk in there too. We keep cameras back in the hills almost all year, we see cats, yotes, deer, bear and LOTS of elk on camera. Have not had one single wolf on film yet. Not saying they haven't been in the 360 unit, just saying they are few and far between if there.

[crabcreekhunter]

Heard wolves in the William o douglas in 2013.

[gee_unit360]

Get off the road? Seems like there is roads upon roads upon roads in that unit, the green dot system goes everywhere. I wonder what the largest distance between roads in that unit is. It seemed like you couldn’t get off a road and go more than a mile without hitting another one. But, I haven’t been in that unit as much as you guys, it just seemed that way when I hunted it.

I'm with Karl.   There are elk everywhere in Bethel.  There might be a random wolf that has passed through the unit but I live in the unit and recreate from east to west in the unit.  I've never seen any sign of them.  What I do see, everywhere in the unit, is elk.  Get off the road, hunt hard, Bethel can be productive.  Or, blame it on the wolves and move on...

Im 20 min from bethel and have recreated in the area my whole life. In the last two years alone between my bull tag and JonathanS's bull tag I've spent EASILY 100 days in Bethel and every bit of 30 nights.  There is elk EVERYWHERE in that unit and I have yet to see or hear any signs of wolves. Not saying it's not possible but I'm extremely skeptical of all the reported wolf sightings 

[HoofsandWings]

I wish I had a camera with me on opening day. When a wolf growls at you, you are too close. Would have been a great picture.

[Goshawk]

Just big coyotes...

[HoofsandWings]

Opening day, a wolf growled at me. I think there was a fresh kill near by.

[trophyhunt]

I sure hope there is another part to this story and it never gets posted!!!  If a wolf is close enough to growl at me, he’s dead, simple.

[Hilltop123]

Less typing and talking, more shootin and shuting up.

[Igor]

SHOOT !!  SHOVEL !!  SHUT UP !!!

[trophyhunt]

 

[Naches Sportsman]

Didn't like the responses you got from your other thread?

https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,243878.0.html

[KFhunter]

Didn't like the responses you got from your other thread?

https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,243878.0.html

Thanks


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