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Offline BDildine

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Get outdoors combo
« on: November 18, 2019, 12:24:31 PM »
Kinda been trying to follow this, not much on the WDFW page, but today was able to sift through and find some more information. (couldnt find a topic on this so thought i'd start one)
Just curious what you all thought of it?
I could see me buying it, all my transactions in 1 shot vs maybe forgetting/overlooking something.

https://wdfw.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2019-09/B.%20SSEstablishing%20the%20Get%20Outdoors%20Hunting%20and%20Fishing%20License%20Package.pdf
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Meeting dates: September 27, 2019
Agenda item: B. Establishing the Get Outdoors Hunting and Fishing License Package
Presenter(s): Nate Pamplin, Director of Budget and Government Affairs
Background summary:
There are currently no combination hunting and fishing packages offered by the Department.
RCW 77.12.470(5) provides authority for the Commission to create new packages, and can set
the price of two or more licenses and endorsements at or below the cumulative price of its
components.
License combinations are convenient for the customer and the retail dealer, provides an
attractive discount that may generate additional revenue overall, and may contribute to R3
efforts as people who have purchased a privilege already included in a license package may
try a new activity.
WDFW is proposing the creation of the Get Outdoors license for residents. The Get Outdoors
license includes:
 Annual combination recreational freshwater, saltwater, and shellfish license.
 Two-pole endorsement
 Puget Sound crab endorsement.
 Annual combination hunting license for deer, elk, bear, and cougar.
 Bear and cougar transport tags.
 Small game license
 Migratory bird permit and migratory bird authorization.
 Two turkey tags.
The base fee for this package is $208.80. Adding in the 10% transaction fee and the $5.50
dealer fee, the out-the-door price is $235.18.
The customer may elect to purchase their deer and elk transport tags with the Get Outdoors
license, in which case, the out-the-door price will be $236.18. Some customers do not
purchase their deer and elk transport tags until after the multi-season draw occurs.
Staff recommendation: Staff recommend that the Fish and Wildlife Commission approve the
adoption of the Get Outdoors fishing/hunting license package.
Policy issue(s) and expected outcome: If approved, the Get Outdoors package will provide
a convenient ‘one-click’ option to recreational customers for both fishing and hunting activities.
Additionally, we’ve discounted the package to reward our most avid customers and potentially
increase revenue overall given the popularity of discounted packages.
Fiscal impacts of agency implementation: This package is projected to increase revenue by
approximately $40,000 per fiscal year in license and transaction fee revenue. The Department
assumes about 5,000 license sales based on what we learned from the initial roll-out of Fish
Washington and examining customer purchase history.
This estimate assumes many of the customers purchasing the Get Outdoors package will have
purchased many of the licenses and endorsements in the prior year. Given the discount
associated with the new Get Outdoors license package, the “breakeven point” of being revenue
neutral will be for the Department to sell about 4,800 licenses.
Public involvement process used and what you learned: The Department’s CR-101 was
filed May 22, 2019. The CR-102 was filed July 3, 2019. The Department received two public
comments, the first was received following the filing of the CR-101; it was a clarifying question
about what the proposal would include and the Department provided additional information to
the commenter.
The Department’s second comment was a question asking whether the package would be
further discounted for veterans/ADA qualifying individuals. The Department replied that no, it
would not, as the existing price points for veterans/ADA licenses and endorsements are
already a significant savings beyond the proposed package cost.
There was a public hearing on September 13, 2019 and no one testified. Since that hearing
there have been a couple emails asking about the license and suggesting that the cost be
reduced further.
Action requested and/or proposed next steps: Department staff request that the
Commission approve the creation of WAC 220-220-093, Combination hunting and fishing
packages.
Draft motion language: “I move to adopt WAC 220-220-093, as presented by staff.”
Post decision communications plan: The Get Outdoors license package will be
communicated to existing customers via email, promoted on Facebook and other social media,
and communicated to dealers via notifications on the licensing system. The new package will
be provided for sale on December 1, 2019 for License year 2020 (April 1, 2020 through March
31, 2021)

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Re: Get outdoors combo
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2019, 11:52:24 AM »
Re-FYI - WDFW "Get OutDoors" Pitch
https://wdfw.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2019-09/9.%20Establishing%20the%20Get%20Outdoors%20Hunting%20and%20Fishing%20License%20Package%20Presentation.pdf

since other Virtual Campfire "Get OutDoors Combo" thread disappeared to cyberspace :dunno:
 … want my rare posting credit  :chuckle:

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Re: Get outdoors combo
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2019, 12:44:46 PM »
How much would a person save buying this package vs all this stuff individually?

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Re: Get outdoors combo
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2019, 01:17:00 PM »
There was another (newer) thread about this, someone did the math, I wanna say it was $20 or maybe a little better vs buying everything else combo'd/lowest price....

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Re: Get outdoors combo
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2019, 01:30:09 PM »
Looks to me the savings is bigger than $20.00. I spend no less than $240.00 for Hunting and fishing crabbing but never buy a small game license and usually do not bird hunt or get turkey tags, just those are more than $20.00.
When I pass, do not let my wife sell the guns for what I told her they cost.

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Re: Get outdoors combo
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2019, 02:04:43 PM »
From the link above, the price if purchased individually would be $336.
The package price would be $235, for a savings of $101.
Not a bad offer in my mind, plus I would probably hunt something I normally wouldn't.

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Re: Get outdoors combo
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2019, 02:05:32 PM »
There was another (newer) thread about this, someone did the math, I wanna say it was $20 or maybe a little better vs buying everything else combo'd/lowest price....

Yea i made that newer thread, and apparently someone felt it needed deleted. i dont understand why, it was a general topic but whatever, i just added up what i bought and beings i dont fish the salt, i spent around 175, thats for deer and elk with discoutned small game. if instead i do d/e/b/c with discounted small game plus a 2nd turkey tag, i come up with $206, so i guess i basically have to decide the chance that i end up fishing the salt, it would be 25 more dollars and i would get saltwater fishing along with some west side migratory stuff that i dont need on the eastside, or my other option is to give idaho my leftover $25.

Yep, here you go idaho, where do i write the check
« Last Edit: December 04, 2019, 02:17:32 PM by outdooraddict »

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Re: Get outdoors combo
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2019, 02:23:04 PM »
It's a 6% savings over buying the other combo offers.

It's not great, and we're still extremely high compared to other states... But I'll be buying it.  Savings is savings.

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Re: Get outdoors combo
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2019, 03:17:13 PM »
but only a 6% savings if you buy all those things that are inclued, for someone that doesnt venture to the westside, then it doens tmake any sense financially

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Re: Get outdoors combo
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2019, 03:03:10 PM »
They should do a "pick em" style of combo.  Allowing for 4 big game licenses, 2 fishing licenses or endorsements.  I'm not saying these exact numbers but allow for more customization and I might be sold. But I dont have enough time to fill 2 Turkey tags nor do I fish in the salt and rarely care enough to use two poles at a time .

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Re: Get outdoors combo
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2019, 04:12:23 PM »
They could have added the stupid discover pass to sweeten the deal.  :twocents:

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Re: Get outdoors combo
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2019, 04:50:02 PM »
I'll wait.  Buying before seasons are set, before anything is announced, no thanks.  I might be cynical but I don't trust them trying to front load as much money as they can.  Last year they waited until most licences were renewed before mentioning crab closures.  NOF hasn't taken place.  I am at the point with this state that I won't give them a cent that isn't necessary.  Things get closed or altered, and maybe you don't get to use all the options.  Given, hunting is more stable but still never know.

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Re: Get outdoors combo
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2019, 07:17:51 PM »
They could have added the stupid discover pass to sweeten the deal.  :twocents:
That wouldn't be possible without approval from the legislature since the Discover Pass is a multi-agency pass.

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Re: Get outdoors combo
« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2019, 08:23:21 PM »
I will continue to spend my money out of state.....

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Re: Get outdoors combo
« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2019, 11:00:33 PM »
I'll wait.  Buying before seasons are set, before anything is announced, no thanks.  I might be cynical but I don't trust them trying to front load as much money as they can.  Last year they waited until most licences were renewed before mentioning crab closures.  NOF hasn't taken place.  I am at the point with this state that I won't give them a cent that isn't necessary.  Things get closed or altered, and maybe you don't get to use all the options.  Given, hunting is more stable but still never know.

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